Taylor (30 Oct 2012)
"Rapture 2012: 12/12/12"

Angels appear as humans
-- Then vanish --
after making startling announcement
that Jesus is coming "very, very soon"!!!
And other supernatural confirmations of Christ's soon return!
by Jim Bramlett
Introduction. Numerous reputable people have told me, most unsolicited, of experiences with angels they either had personally or knew about. In most cases, the angels appeared to provide help in some distressful situation. However, several of the incidents, including the ones below, are particularly interesting for two reasons: (1) they contain a message (literally, the word "angel" means "messenger") and, (2) the incidents were brought to my personal attention under unusual circumstances, making me think God sent them my way.
Encounter # 2 (Confirmed)
While in the process of investigating the above incident, I learned of this next amazing one from another person in California, although it took place in Tennessee. It happened just past midnight on March 26, 1993, to Vincent Tan, an analytical chemist who works in Chattanooga. I spent weeks personally tracing this incident and have confirmed it with two reputable Christian leaders, his pastor and, finally, even Vincent himself. The following is a precisely recorded account: Vincent was born Tan Ban Soon in Singapore of Chinese, Buddhist parents. A few years ago as a young boy in Singapore, he was in the library reading a book on nuclear physics and discovered an offer for a Bible course stuck between some pages. He ordered the course and later became a Christian. He came to the U.S. to attend a Christian college, and then gave himself the western name of Vincent. After four years, he graduated with a major in science. He has been very active in his church and in sharing his faith.
On the night of Thursday, March 25, 1993, Vincent was working late in his laboratory to complete tests due on Friday. During the evening he moved his car close to the front door of the building, since there had recently been criminal activity in the area. From time to time he looked out the window into the almost empty parking lot to check on his car. At 1:30 a.m. he finished working in his lab. As he was preparing to lock the door, he saw a person standing by the passenger side of his car. Vincent assumed the man was trying to steal his car. He noted that the stranger was of medium build with clean-cut, straight hair and had on a T-shirt, blue jeans and white tennis shoes.
Unsure what to do, he went back into the lab and prayed, "Lord, help me to do what I have to do. Do I have to use chi-sao?" Chi-sao (pronounced "chee'-sow-o") is a form of martial art in which Vincent is proficient. To be extra safe, he looked around the lab and picked up an 18-inch metal rod, held it behind him and stuck his head out the door. He said, "Hi, can I help you?"

The stranger answered, "Hi, Vincent."

Startled, Vincent asked, "Do I know you?"

The stranger replied, "Not really."

"What is your name? Who are you?" Vincent probed.

The stranger said, "I have the name of your primary and secondary school." He added, "I'm a friend. You don't have to use chi-sao or the rod on me." His voice had unusual authority, and it seemed he knew the question before it was asked.
Now Vincent was really startled. No one, not even his best friend in this country, was familiar with chi-sao, nor did anyone even know that he knew it. Also, there was no way the stranger could have seen the rod behind his back. Vincent later reflected that the stranger had used terminology ("primary and secondary school") of Singapore and not the U.S., and that name of his school back in Singapore was St. Gabriel. The stranger was saying that his name was Gabriel!

"How do you know that?" Vincent asked.

"I know," the stranger replied. "By the way, Mum is fine." Vincent was startled again. Just the week before, his sister had called from Singapore saying that his mother had heart complications, and Vincent had been quite worried about her.

Gabriel continued, "You love the Lord very much, don't you?"
"That's right," Vincent replied.

"He loves you very much, too," Gabriel said. Then he added, "He is coming very, very soon." He seemed to emphasize the "very soon."

Vincent answered, "That's great!"

Gabriel then asked, "Can I have a cup of water?"

Vincent said, "Sure," and turned momentarily to get him the water. Then he decided to invite the stranger inside to drink from the water fountain. He turned back to invite him inside -- but Gabriel was not there. He had suddenly and unexplainably vanished! Vincent had not turned his head for more than three seconds. There was no place for the stranger to have gone.
Puzzled, and not wanting to go back into the lab, Vincent laid the metal rod down by the front door and headed to his home outside of Chattanooga. When he came back to work later that morning, he wondered if he had dreamed the whole experience. As a scientist, he wanted to prove whether it had really happened. When he got to the building, he found the metal rod lying by the door just where he had left it. He knew he had not been dreaming. Upon entering the lab, the first thing he did was to lock himself in the rest room and kneel in prayer. "Show me what to do, Lord. I know what I remember. If I'm supposed to share it, I must believe it myself," Vincent pleaded. He then sat down at his computer and recorded every word said and everything that had happened.
That night, March 26, 1993, in a dream Vincent relived the whole experience, seeing himself, and word for word hearing the whole conversation. He awoke at about 3:30 a.m. and wrote down every word in the dream and the description of the stranger. What he wrote from the dream confirmed every detail he had written earlier. Also, a week after the experience, he learned that his mother had received needed surgery and was recuperating nicely -- and that the medical decision about her improved condition came a week earlier at about the very same hour as he was talking with Gabriel!
On July 29, 1993 I asked Vincent what effect this experience has had on him. He said he believes more strongly now that we should be ready every day for the Lord's coming, and not worry about which day He will come. He said the experience has intensified his dedication, causing him to spend more devotional time than before, wanting to know more about God and be closer to Him. For some time, even before that experience, Vincent said he had been asking God, "Am I ready, right now?" Now, more meaningfully than ever, this writer is asking that same question.
Encounter # 3: Vincent's second (confirmed)
I recently confirmed personally with Vincent that he has had another encounter, this time with an unnamed angel, on Thursday, December 23, 1993. Like the above, the following is an accurate record of exactly what happened and words exchanged.
Two Significant Prior Events. There are two events that have a bearing on this one. First, in July, 1993, Vincent had a dream. He saw himself standing at the door of a big room. He saw many candles, but not all of them were lit. He asked himself in the dream why the unlit candles. Then he heard a sad voice behind him saying, "If only all of them were lit." He turned around but didn't see anyone. A week later he had the exact same dream. Vincent shared the dreams in his Bible study and said he hoped someday the Lord would show him the meaning of the dreams.
Second, three months later in October, 1993 a stranded motorist waved Vincent down and asked him to jump start his car. Vincent stopped but did not have a cable. However, Vincent asked the man if he believed in God. The man asked what could God do. Vincent told him he believed that God could help in any situation such as this if we ask Him. So Vincent prayed out loud for God's help. After he prayed Vincent noticed a coat hanger on the road.
Somehow, he figured out a way to break the coat hanger in two and use one part to connect the positive terminals and the other part to touch the two auto bodies together as ground. The man's car started. He looked at Vincent and said, "You sure have a powerful God!" Vincent said, "I sure do. All we have to do is believe in Him." The man said, "I'll have to think about that," and left. Two days later, Vincent got a jumper cable for his truck.
The December 23, 1993 Experience. Shortly after 11 p.m.,
December 23, 1993, Vincent was in his truck returning home from visiting a friend near Chattanooga. About four miles away from the friend's home, he saw a truck alongside the road with its hood up and with an old man, estimated at about age 75, standing in front of it. Vincent was always wary of stopping for strangers, and believed one must really be led of the Lord in order to do so. He felt he should stop. He walked up to the man and asked if anything was wrong, to which the man replied that he a dead battery. Vincent asked if he could help in any way. The man asked that Vincent go get his jumper cable out of the truck. Vincent was surprised that he said this, as if knowing that Vincent had a jumper cable, especially since he had only recently obtained one. Vincent himself had forgotten that he had the cable, but when the old man told him about it he remembered. It was very dark and Vincent had to use his flashlight to see to connect his end of the cable. Then he turned around to discover that the man had already connected his end, even in the dark and with no flashlight. That seemed impossible, and startled Vincent.
Vincent said, "I need to do something first." The man looked at him and said, "I did it already." Vincent said, "Did what?" The man said, "I placed the bricks by your tires. That's what you want, isn't it?" The man had no way of knowing that Vincent had two bricks in his truck or that he wanted to block his tires with them because he didn't trust his hand brake and because the gear would have to be in neutral to start the other truck. Vincent checked and discovered that the man had placed the bricks behind the exact same tires that Vincent wanted. At this point, Vincent was convinced that this was not a natural person. And after the experience in March, Vincent had decided that if the Lord ever gave him the privilege of another encounter with an angel, he had many questions he wanted to ask. But he had a sudden feeling come over him and some force caused his mouth to be kept shut. He was not able to say anything except to respond to whatever the old man wanted or said.
Vincent was now ready to start the truck, and the old man said, "Can we wait in your truck and have my truck charged up?"
Vincent agreed and they sat in his truck. The old man spoke first and said, "Can we pray? God can work miracles -- even start a car with a coat hanger." (The previous incident with the coat hanger job was a car and not a truck!) At this, Vincent said to himself that this stranger must be an angel!
The old man prayed: "Oh most holy and powerful God in heaven, we know you are coming very, very soon. Help us now in your own time and way. In Jesus' Name. Amen." Vincent said the man's voice was so powerful and assuring that it sent chills through him. After the prayer the man asked Vincent, "Do you believe the Lord is coming soon?" Vincent said yes. Then the man said, "He is coming very, very soon, and we need to be ready now and always." Then he said, "Can I use your Bible?" Vincent agreed, then without any word from Vincent the man reached into the glove compartment for the Bible, already knowing where it was located.
The man asked Vincent, "Do you read your Bible?" Vincent replied that he tried to read it every day. The man said, "That's very good. It's unfortunate that many do not do that. Having Bible studies is like being in a big room with many candles that are lit." Vincent knew he had God's answer about his dreams six months earlier. The unlit candles meant many people were not spending time studying God's Word! Now Vincent had absolutely no doubt that this was an angel.
It was very dark, but the man took Vincent's King James Bible and, without searching, flipped immediately to the exact page, to Matthew, chapter 24. Then Vincent shined the flashlight on the page as the man read verse 36: "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." He then jumped down to verse 42: "Watch therefore, for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come."
Then again, as if knowing exactly where the page was, without searching he flipped to John, chapter 14, and read verses 1-3: "Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also."
Then again, he amazingly flipped directly to Revelation 3, verse 11, and read: "Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown." With that, the man put the Bible back in the glove compartment. Vincent reflected that all three passages, and everything the man said, was about the Lord's return.
After reading, the man put the Bible back and said, "The truck is ready." He started the truck and Vincent said he would follow him for awhile to make sure everything was okay. The man said, "Thank you very much for your help. By the way, I left a small token for you. It will be enough to fill up your car tomorrow." That was strange, because there was no way for the man to know that Vincent had a car in addition to his truck. Vincent followed him about a mile with the man's tail lights clearly in view, then as they were going around a curve, he suddenly vanished from view. He and his truck just disappeared. Thinking his vision may have been obstructed by trees or something, Vincent even went back the next day during the daylight and retraced everything. There were no trees or anything obstructing his view. There was no human explanation. Also the next day, as he always does on Friday, Vincent took his car to the service station to fill up the tank with gasoline, so it would be full for the weekend. He had forgotten what the man had said about leaving a token "to fill up your car tomorrow." Vincent put $2.32 worth of gas in his car, then tried to round it off to $2.35 or $2.40. But he could only get it up to $2.34 and it stopped. It just would not take more than exactly $2.34.
Vincent then left to visit a friend's house, but remembered that he had left the friend's Christmas gift in his truck, so he went back home. When home, Vincent decided to clean his truck a bit before leaving. While doing so, he found some money on the front seat, passenger's side, underneath his glove. The money consisted of two one-dollar bills, a quarter, a nickel, and four pennies -- exactly $2.34!"
John Tng (31 July 2012)
"The Rapture Date"

Dear Doves,

At around midnight on Dec 23, 1993, Vincent Tan had an encounter with an unnamed angel who left him $2.34, a mysterious clue to the rapture. The story was first reported by Jim Bramlett around the time when I started surfing the Internet in the mid nineties. I got to know Jim because of his angel reports; you can read more about them here at this link: http://www.choicesforliving.com/spirit/part3/angels.htm

I believe the angel is none other than the Archangel Gabriel since nine months earlier Vincent had his first encounter in which the angel identified himself as Gabriel. It behooves us watchers to take the number 234 seriously and ponder its link to the rapture if indeed the personage is a renown messenger of God, known to have announced the coming of the LORD in his four appearances recorded in the Bible (Dan 8, 9 and Luke 1).
The Meaning of Numbers: The Number 12
Twelve is a perfect number, signifying perfection of government, or of governmental perfection. It is found as a multiple in all that has to do with rule. The sun which "rules" the day, and the moon and stars which "govern" the night, do so by their passage through the twelve signs of the Zodiac which completes the great circle of the heavens of 360 (12 x 30) degrees or divisions, and thus govern the year.
Twelve is the product of 3 (the perfectly Divine and heavenly number) and 4 (the earthly, the number of what is material and organic).
While seven is composed of 3 added to 4, the number twelve is 3 multiplied by 4, and hence denotes that which can scarcely be explained in words, but which the spiritual perception can at once appreciate, viz., organization, the products denoting production and multiplication and increase of all that is contained in the two numbers separately. The 4 is generally prominently seen in the twelve.
The Twelve Patriarchs
There were twelve patriarchs from (and including) Shem (the son of Noah) to Jacob:
The Sons of Israel
The twelve sons of Israel, though actually thirteen in number, are never listed with 13 names in a single list.

There are about 18 enumerations altogether, but in each list one or the other sons / tribes is omitted. Generally it is Levi, but not always. In Revelation 7 both Dan and Ephraim are omitted (see number 8), but the enumeration is still twelve, Levi and Joseph being introduced for this special sealing of the remnant which shall go unscathed through the great tribulation.
How is the number twelve represented in Solomon's Temple?
The temple of Solomon has twelve as the predominating factor, in contrast with the Tabernacle, which had the number five. This agrees with the grace which shines in the Tabernacle, and with the glory of the kingdom which is displayed in the Temple.
When we come to the New Testament we find the same great principle pervading the Apostolic government as we see in the Patriarchal and National, for we have the following groups of twelve:
The Apostles.
The foundations in the heavenly Jerusalem.
The gates.
The pearls.
The angels.
How is the number 12 in the New Jerusalem?
The measurement of the new Jerusalem will be 12,000 furlongs square, while the wall will be 144 (12 x 12) cubits, Revelation 21:16,17.
The number of the sealed in Revelation 7:4 will be 144,000, and all that has to do with the Twelve Tribes is necessarily pervaded by this number, such as the stones in the High Priest's breastplate, the stones taken out of the Jordan, the number of the spies, etc. etc., and therefore we have not referred to all such reference in these pages.
Who were the 12 people specially ANOINTED to serve in government?
Twelve persons were anointed for government of various kinds. Of course, all kings, priests, prophets, and healed lepers were anointed; but the circumstances of the anointing of twelve individuals are specially recorded. Of these, five were priests (Aaron and his four sons, Exodus 6:23) and seven were kings:
Aaron, Exodus 29:7,9, etc.
Nadab, Exodus 29:7,9, etc.
Abihu, Exodus 29:7,9, etc.
Eleazar, Exodus 29:7,9, etc.
Ithamar, Exodus 29:7,9, etc.
Saul, 1Samuel 10:1.
David, * 1Samuel 16:13.
Absalom, 2Samuel 19:10.
Solomon, 1Kings 1:39.
Jehu, 2Kings 9:6.
Joash, 2Kings 11:12.
Jehoahaz, 2Kings 23:30.
* David was anointed three times, viz: by Samuel, 1 Samuel 16:13; by the men of Judah, 2Samuel 2:4; by the elders of Israel, 2Samuel 5:3.
It will be observed from the above list that Saul, the man of MAN'S choice, is thus stamped with the number 6. David, the man of God's choice, is stamped with the number seven. For Saul and David are the sixth and seventh respectively in order. The words, "a man after God's own heart," means simply a man of God's choice, and not, as infidels are never tired of asserting, that God approved of all the sins which David fell into.
At what age did Jesus first appear in public?
Twelve years of age was Jesus when He first appears in public (Luke 2:42) and utters His first recorded words (see number 1).
Legions of Angels
Twelve legions of angels mark the perfection of angelic powers (Matthew 26:53).
Additional commentary on the Biblical Meaning of 12 *
The number twelve is found 187 times total in the Bible, 22 of which are in the book of Revelation.
The significance of the number 12 is that it represents divine authority and appointment, as well as governmental foundation and perfection, and shows completeness. 12 is also used as a signature of Israel. Truth is symbolized by 144, or 12 x 12.
There are 12 divisions of heaven called the Mazzaroth, which God uses for signs and seasons. The testimony of the stars is numerically in harmony with the Bible: "The heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament shows His handiwork" (Psalms 19:1).
There were 12 sons of Jacob, whose families formed the 12 tribes of Israel with 12 princes; there were also 12 princes of Ishmael.
The high priest’s breastplate, used for judgment, had 12 stones representing the 12 tribes. The showbread consisted of 12 loaves. During the period of the judges, 12 judges judged Israel. Solomon appointed 12 officers over Israel.
At age 12, Jesus appeared at the temple. Jesus ordained 12 apostles, who were sent with authority to preach the Gospel and to be witnesses of His resurrection. After His resurrection, Jesus told the apostles that He had been given all authority in heaven and earth — the divine authority of God.
During the great tribulation, 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel are saved, totaling 144,000 (Revelation 7). A second 144,000 are gathered from the earth to serve the Lamb and follow Him (Revelation 14:1-5). The bride of Christ is pictured with a crown of 12 stars (Revelation 12:1).
The New Jerusalem has 12 gates of pearls, 12 angels at the gates and the names of the 12 tribes of Israel over the gates. The wall of the city has 12 foundations of precious stones; in them are the names of the 12 apostles. The wall is 144 cubits high (12 x 12). The city is 12,000 furlongs (1,500 miles) square.


The Rapture, Gog, and Hanukkah Puzzle: Putting It All Together

The title got your attention, right? Up front I want to say that I understand that it's impossible to calculate the exact day and hour of the Rapture. Jesus himself said (in Matthew 24:36) about the End Times: "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."
However there are some important considerations when speculating about when the End Times, also known as the Tribulation or Great Tribulation, may arrive. Christ admonished his disciples to watch for his second coming at least twice (once in Matthew 24:42 "Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come." And in Matthew 25:13 "Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.")(Note: current tense is used in the Greek, signifying at that time only no one knows; there is no prohibition on future knowledge).
Doing so may also be important for all Christians; In Revelation 3: 3, Jesus warned the church at Sardis, "...If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee."  This Scripture seems to indicate that those watching will know.
Christians are to hold fast to their salvation and to watch, less they be unready for the return of the Lord.
Once the Tribulation events start, it becomes possible to determine when our Messiah actually returns to rule the Earth by simply calculating the time frame outlined in Daniel and the other prophets regarding the construction of the new Temple in Jerusalem and the start of the reign of the Antichrist.
While we don't have the space to go into detail about this in this article, studying the times set in Daniel and the other prophets as well as the book of Revelation suggests that it should be possible to calculate this date with some precision, using the 360-day Hebrew calendar, once the Antichrist sets up his image in the new Temple in Jerusalem. Once the ball is set into motion, the ability to calculate the time and hour of various events will become possible for those aware of Biblical prophecies.
What is it that we don't know the day or the hour of then?
It would seem what is unknown is the beginning of the Great Tribulation itself, an event which many feel will be initiated by the Rapture of the Church (the Rapture being the time when the dead in Christ are raised and go -- along with the living Christians -- to Heaven so they will be spared going through the Great Tribulation). So, while it may not be possible to calculate the "day and the hour" of the occurrence of the Rapture, it appears that a person might be able to calculate the season in which it occurs with some accuracy. Jesus appears to expect that those living near the beginning of the Tribulation will be able to understand what is about to happen.
After Jesus had told his disciples about what the End of the Age would be like, he added, "And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth near." (Luke 21:28). This suggests that those approaching the End Times spoken of throughout the Bible would be aware of the season, while not actually knowing the day and the hour. While Biblical prophecy is designed to display the power and majesty of God, it seems logical that it also serves the purpose of preparing God's people for what lies ahead of them.
In Luke 12:37-38, he said, "Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them. And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants." This suggests that those who are watching for his return will be rewarded for their vigilance.


To find this season of the Rapture, it is necessary to exploit a "Multiple Jigsaw Puzzle" system. What?
Well, that's perhaps the best way to describe it. Imagine that you have a jigsaw puzzle with three- fourths of the pieces missing. You assemble it, but the picture is far from complete. This is somewhat of the picture you get from any one of the books of the prophets in the Old Testament or even from the book of Revelation when it comes to the End Times and especially in the case of the Rapture (which is only hinted at, with the word "rapture" not even appearing in the Bible). With all the parts missing in the puzzle, it's impossible to get a complete picture even after all the parts you have are assembled. You have an idea of what the picture is, but not all the details.
Suppose that instead of just one copy of the puzzle, you had four or five jigsaw puzzles, all of the same scene. They all have parts missing, but some have parts that the others do not have. Suddenly you're presented with the possibility of taking the complete portions of one puzzle and placing it together with the others to create one entire picture. With careful comparison of parts that are common to all the puzzles, you can slowly piece together one complete picture.
This same idea can be applied to the prophecies of the End Times. By carefully comparing the pieces from each passage in the Bible to determine which have common parts, it's possible to then figure which are talking about a common event. Then these can be used as anchor points to assemble a complete picture of what appears in one part of the "puzzle" but not the others. Little by little, the prophesy puzzle can be produced to create an idea of when the Rapture is likely to occur.
Here's what can be discovered using this technique.


First puzzle piece: The Rapture occurs when leaders of Israel as well as the "man on the street" will be operating under the assumption that "peace and safety" has come to the region. This is supported by 1 Thessalonians 5:3 "For when they shall say peace and safety then sudden destruction shall come upon them as birth pains upon a woman with child and they shall not escape."
The association of birth pains with the time of the Tribulation is clear from what Jesus told his disciples. When Jesus' disciples asked what would signal His return, He gave them several signs to watch for. He also taught that the time immediately before His coming would be known as the "beginning of sorrows" (Matthew 24:8); a literal translation of "beginning of sorrows" into English would be the "onset of labor pains." Jesus was saying the signs of His coming would start out as mild pangs spaced widely apart like human labor and then gradually become closer together and more intense, like the birth process, until this period of suffering and judgment would culminate in the coming of the Messiah.
It's logical that Paul would have been fully aware of this allusion that Christ had given His disciples. Therefore, it seems likely that these two passages are talking about the onset of the same event: The Great Tribulation. Therefore, people believing they are about to enjoy peace and safety is most likely one of the signs of the Great Tribulation.
If this is true, then the Rapture might be rapidly approaching since the term "peace and safety" was being bandied about by the Israelis and the press during the recent peace negotiations between the PLO and Israel. Likewise Benjamin Netanyahu, when addressing the Kenesset in the summer of 1996, made it clear that he was interested in making peace with Israel's former enemies only if the cessation of hostilities arrived with Israel's security interests intact.


Another puzzle piece shows that another event preceding the Great Tribulation is the Battle of Gog and Magog. This event is outlined in Ezekiel 38:18- 22:
18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face.
19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;
20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.
21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother.
22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.
23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD.
There are several important puzzle pieces in this passage that give us a fuller picture of the Great Tribulation. First, there's reference to a great earthquake or "shaking" at the presence of the Lord with mountains being thrown down, etc., and a raining of pestilence on the Earth. This same picture appears in Matthew 24, where Christ told his disciples, "For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of sorrows..." Thus it appears that these two stories are one and the same, marking the beginning of the Great Tribulation.
Now another piece of the puzzle becomes apparent: Ezekiel 38:18 tells us that this is also the same time when Gog comes against the land of Israel. Thus it appears that this war marks the beginning of the Great Tribulation. (It is important to note that this war is quite different from the Battle of Armageddon, though the two events mirror each other, with one occurring at the beginning of the Great Tribulation, and the other marking its end.)


Gog and Magog appear a number of times in the Bible. In addition to the above passage, these two are mentioned in Ezekiel 39:1, Ezekiel 39:11, and Revelation 20:8. However their first appearance in the Bible is as actual, living historical individuals.
The first appearance of these two figures is in Genesis 10: 2-3. Here we find the descendants of Noah's sons listed. The children of Japheth are Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Mesech, and Tiras. The Sons of Gomer are Ashkenas, Riphoth, and Togarmah. According to Hebrew tradition (as well as hints in the Bible starting with verse 5 of this chapter), it is assumed that these are the ancestors of those who comprise the Gentile nations including the Chinese, Tartars, Greeks, Persians, Germans, Muscovites, and other Slovenian races. When Ezekiel writes of Gog and Magog, the offspring of these two individuals are most likely the nations or powers that he's referring to.
Some manuscripts/translations of the Bible also list "Rosh" as a leader within this group of countries. It is interesting to note that the first Czar of Great Muscovy was called Rosh, and that it was from this leader that Russia derived its name. Past historians divided Russia into three independent States. One was the main Russian state, also known as "Muscovie", "Muscovy" or the Eastern and Southern Russia states, and "Tobolsk" or Northern Russia. Obviously it's easy to draw parallels with Rosh being modern-day Russia; Meshech, Muscovy; and Tubal, Tobolsky.
Now we can make another connection when reading Ezekiel 38:2-3: "Son of man, set thy face against Gog the land of Magog...and prophesy of him...Behold, I come against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Mesech and Tubal."
To make it even clearer, Ezekiel 38: 14-15 gives the direction that the Gog and Magog empire are from Israel, "Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog... And thou shalt come out of thy place from the northern parts."
Reading these passages with the knowledge of geography and Russian history, Russia becomes the prime candidate in the Gog and Magog sweepstakes.


Ezekiel 38:5 lists the allies of Gog and Magog as being, "Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya." This is a surprise considering that most analysts of the Middle East feel Syria, Jordan, and Egypt are the biggest threats to Israel today. However the portrait presented by the Bible makes perfect sense if we remember the puzzle piece that talks of "peace and safety." This suggests a peace treaty of some sort is in place between Israel and its closest neighbors. This may be why these countries are missing in the invasion. (Again, the current treaty being proposed for peace in the Middle East suggests this prophecy may be very close to being fulfilled.)
The Bible tells us that Gog and Magog's effort to destroy Israel will collapse before the fury of the Lord. This destruction will apparently be compounded by confusion or a civil war within the ranks of Gog and Magog, with brother slaying brother. In the aftermath of the slaughter, Israel will spend seven months decontaminating the countryside of all the dead invaders' bodies, as noted in Ezekiel 39:11-12:
11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog.
12 And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land.
Another key puzzle piece is in the disposal of the military equipment left behind by the defeated Gog and Magog armies. Israel burns the trash for a period of seven years, according to Ezekiel 39:9-10:
9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the hand staves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years:
10 So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord God.
This time frame of a seven years' cleanup may reflect Daniel's Seventieth Week. If so, then this war signals the beginning of the 7-year Tribulation. If this is true, then the Rapture most likely occurs sometime before the battle of Gog and Magog (perhaps even causing Gog and Magog to launch their attack under the assumption that this is the best time for it).


Turning to Haggai 2:6-7, we find another bit of our missing puzzle.
6 For thus saith the LORD of hosts; Yet once, it is a little while, and I will shake the heavens, and the earth, and the sea, and the dry land;
7 And I will shake all nations, and the desire of all nations shall come: and I will fill this house with glory, saith the LORD of hosts.
This passage links the "shaking" or great earthquake to the coming of the "desire of all nations", a phrase that must mean the return of the Lord as the Messiah or Prince of Peace. (This being the desire of all godly people in the nations, though obviously not the desire of the wicked on the earth at the time of His return.) This conclusion is reinforced with the idea that His house will be filled with glory, surely an indication of both a divine reign as well as an allusion to the House of David from which the Messiah's royal lineage comes.


Now a key piece to the puzzle that will give us a fuller picture of these End Time events. Haggai 2:18- 22 gives an exact season and day for this event.
18 Consider now from this day and upward, from the four and twentieth day of the ninth month, even from the day that the foundation of the Lord's temple was laid, consider it.
19 Is the seed yet in the barn? yea, as yet the vine, and the fig tree, and the pomegranate, and the olive tree, hath not brought forth: from this day will I bless you.
20 And again the word of the LORD came unto Haggai in the four and twentieth day of the month, saying,
21 Speak to Zerubbabel, governor of Judah, saying, I will shake the heavens and the earth;
22 And I will overthrow the throne of kingdoms, and I will destroy the strength of the kingdoms of the heathen; and I will overthrow the chariots, and those that ride in them; and the horses and their riders shall come down, every one by the sword of his brother.
This passage contains an obvious allusion to the Tribulation with earthquakes (shaking the earth) and may also be linked to Revelation references to stars falling from the sky (shaking the heavens). The reference of brother being slain by the sword of brother is another link to the parallel passage in Ezekiel; and the Lord destroys the kingdoms, suggesting his destruction of Gog and Magog. Additionally, there is the picture of brother fighting brother, again suggesting that infighting or confusion that will put the nail into the coffin of Gog and Magog's invasion.
Notice that Haggai gives the exact day of the month for this event (which, remember, comes after the Rapture). In both verse 18 and 20 it is noted that the 24th day will be key -- as if God wants to be sure there's no mistake about which day in the ninth month of the Jewish calendar, Kislev (also known as Chisleu), this will occur.
(The laying of the foundation for the Lord's Temple suggests the building has commenced. However this may only refer to the date of the first Temple. Or it may be that the new Temple will be built on the foundation stones of the original.)


This date is of interest because it occurs just one day before a very special Jewish festival: Hanukkah. Anywhere else, such timing would seem rather an odd coincidence. With God, things are different. As most Biblical scholars know, there's no such thing as "an odd coincidence" when it comes to Bible prophecy.
For those unfamiliar with Hanukkah (also spelled "Chanukah"), it's a Jewish festival that occurs in December (on the 25th day of the Hebrew month Kislev). The festival marks the re-consecration of the Temple of Jerusalem after its recapture from the Syrian Greeks (c.165 BC).
The original celebration of Hanukkah took place on the day after the Jews recaptured the temple site. So even the event that Hanukkah commemorates, actually took place on the 24th day of Kislev.
Another key event in Jewish history also took place on the day before Hanukkah. In 1917, the Allied Expeditionary Force under General Allenby to take control of Jerusalem following the destruction of the Turkish Ottoman Empire at the end of WWI. The day that Allenby and his force entered Jerusalem was Dec. 9, 1917 -- the 24th day of Kislev.


One might think that Jesus would have ignored this festival since it wasn't ordained in the Old Testament. In fact, he appears to have taken part in it and had a very provocative response when questioned during the event.
John 10:22-28: At that time the Feast of Hanukkah (Dedication) took place at Jerusalem; it was winter, and Jesus was walking in the temple in the portico of Solomon. The Jews therefore gathered around Him, and were saying to Him, "How long will You keep us in suspense? If You are the Messiah, tell us plainly." Jesus answered them, "I told you, and you do not believe; the works that I do in My Father's name, these bear witness of Me. But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep. My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; and I give eternal life to them, and they shall never perish; and no one shall snatch them out of My hand."
This statement has an obvious meaning. However one might speculate that the "hear my voice" might also refer to the voice that brings the dead to life at the first resurrection and brings the living with them as they are "snatched up" to heaven just before the Great Tribulation begins. Interestingly, Christ refers to holding sheep in his hand and that they can't be snatched from his hand by anyone else.
Could this be a veiled reference to the Rapture? In the English translation this seems like a stretch. But a closer look makes the possibility seem likely. In English translations, Jesus' reply to the Jewish leaders at the Festival of Hanukkah doesn't seem to hint at the Tribulation prophecies. But in the original Greek, a very important link appears, especially when this verse is compared to what Paul wrote about the Rapture.
Paul wrote in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, "For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first; then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air; and so shall we ever be with the Lord." This is the reference to the rapture in the New Testament.
The Greek word used for "caught up" in this passage is harpuzo, which means to catch up, pluck, snatch, pull, or take by force. (Translated into Latin, this word becomes raptiere; anglicized, the word "rapture" is born.) So the word that means "Rapture" is harpuzo.
And here's the connection: When Christ said, "...no one shall snatch them out of My hand.", his statement employs the same Greek word: harpuzo. Arguably we should not make too much of this, yet it seems like another of the "amazing coincidences" that are actually part of God's plan. The use of harpuzo in both instances suggests a link.
If so, was Christ saying that the Rapture will have taken place and that he will have already snatched his believers from the Earth, making it impossible to snatch them back again? This seems like a viable conclusion and fits very nicely with the links between the day before Hanukkah and the prophecies about it.
There may be another hidden reference to the Rapture in Christ's statement that his sheep hear his voice. In Revelation 4:1-2 there's another piece to the puzzle that shows the Rapture occurring before the Tribulation.
John writes, "...I looked and behold, a door was opened in heaven; and the first voice that I heard was, as it were, a trumpet talking with me; which said, 'Come up here and I will show thee things which must be hereafter.' And immediately I was in the Spirit and, behold, a throne was set in heaven and one sat on the throne."
It should also be noted that the order "Come up here" has a familiar ring to it. In John 11:43-44, Jesus gives a similar command
43 And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, "Lazarus, come forth."
44 And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with grave clothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go.
Thus the Lords simple command that brought Lazarus miraculously to life, is echoed in the Revelation's "trumpet talking" and that not only John but all the Christians on earth go into heaven at this time, answering the command to, "Come up here." That this order is likened to a trumpet provides another piece to the puzzle. This links Christ's spoken command to the sound of the last trumpet, a point of importance to those familiar with Jewish traditions (as outlined below).
This also fits into the puzzle outlined above in the Old Testament passages since it places the Rapture of the Church into heaven ahead of the plagues and destruction that follow during the Tribulation, as outlined in the rest of the book of Revelation.


There are links between the Jewish trumpet in both battle as well as references to the same trumpet in the Rapture. Paul wrote another short passage that refers to the Rapture; First Corinthians 15:51-52 "Behold, I show you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump; for the trumpet shall sound and the dead shall be raised..."
The "last trumpet" to the Hebrews (and to early Christians also) is a key phrase with meaning beyond what most of us realize. This "last trumpet" in this passage isn't the metallic trumpet of the West; rather it's a ram's horn known as the shofar. Blown during the religious festival of Rosh HaShanah (also known as Yom Teruah or the Feast of Trumpets), the shofar marked the beginning of the Jewish New Year.
The shofar is also linked by Jewish tradition to the raising of the dead to life and for sounding the alarm when battle is imminent. (As noted in another article we've written, this is also one reason that some scholars feel that Rosh HaShanah might be the day that the Rapture occurs.)
The important thing to note here is that the shofar is linked by Jewish tradition to the resurrection of the dead (which, according to Paul, takes place for those who have died in Christ at the time of the Rapture) and that the shofar is also linked by Bible as an instrument used to worn of battle and conflict.


When one realizes that the shofar is linked both to battle as well as resurrection, another passage adds important chunks to our puzzle. This passage links the "Day of the Lord" (or Great Tribulation), the invasion of Israel by a great army from the North, and the delivery of Israel by God (the "fear not" in the last verse of this passage).
Joel 2:1-32
1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
2 A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.
3 A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
4 The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run
5 Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array.
6 Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather blackness.
7 They shall run like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war; and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their ranks:
8 Neither shall one thrust another; they shall walk every one in his path: and when they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded.
9 They shall run to and fro in the city; they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up upon the houses; they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.
10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
11 And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?
12 Therefore also now, saith the LORD, turn ye even to me with all your heart, and with fasting, and with weeping, and with mourning:
13 And rend your heart, and not your garments, and turn unto the LORD your God: for he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth him of the evil.
14 Who knoweth if he will return and repent, and leave a blessing behind him; even a meat offering and a drink offering unto the LORD your God?
15 Blow the trumpet in Zion, sanctify a fast, call a solemn assembly:
16 Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet.
17 Let the priests, the ministers of the LORD, weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say, Spare thy people, O LORD, and give not thine heritage to reproach, that the heathen should rule over them: wherefore should they say among the people, Where is their God?
18 Then will the LORD be jealous for his land, and pity his people.
19 Yea, the LORD will answer and say unto his people, Behold, I will send you corn, and wine, and oil, and ye shall be satisfied therewith: and I will no more make you a reproach among the heathen:
20 But I will remove far off from you the northern army, and will drive him into a land barren and desolate, with his face toward the east sea, and his hinder part toward the utmost sea, and his stink shall come up, and his ill savour shall come up, because he hath done great things.
21 Fear not, O land; be glad and rejoice: for the LORD will do great things.
The above passage links the blowing of the trumpet of God (and -- through our other links -- the rapture) with the beginning of the Day of the Lord (AKA the Great Tribulation). It also ties into Gog and Magog in verse 20 as the "northern army".


We now have enough puzzle pieces to flesh out another Biblical passage.
Revelation 6:12-17
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
When we realize that the great earthquake in this passage most likely occurs in a close time frame to the defeat of Gog and Magog by God's hand, then we see that this is the start of the Great Tribulation and, therefore, the Rapture must have preceded this event. The key elements that can be recognized in this passage are the great earthquake and the raining down of plagues upon the inhabitants of the earth.
Placing the Rapture before this even also supports the idea that the voice (sounding like a trumpet) that calls John up to heaven in Chapter 4 of Revelation must indeed be the event signaling the Rapture of the church. Furthermore, this explains why the Church is missing from the account of what's happening on earth during much of the rest of Revelation's narrative from Chapter 4 on. The Church isn't mentioned after that point, because it is in Heaven with Christ.


Revelation Chapter 6 records the first appearance of the Antichrist as the man on the white horse. The white horse suggests a charismatic leader who portrays himself as a good man. In fact he is being accompanied by the other horsemen who kill and destroy. Riding with this first figure on a white horse is a similar man on a pale horse; this fourth horseman is Death.
This is an interesting parallel to Isaiah where we learn of the "Covenant with Death and Hell" (perhaps alluding to the idea that "Hell" is the figure of the Antichrist and "Death" is the fourth rider traveling with him).
Isaiah 28:15: Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:
The timeline of these prophecies also rules out the possibility that the destruction of Gog and Magog is part of the Battle of Armageddon since Christ returns much later in Revelation (Chapter 19).


There's an important picture that can be assembled from all of the puzzle pieces in these passages. First, the beginning of the Great Tribulation may begin on the 24th day of the ninth month of the Hebrew calendar. The catch is in knowing which year this will occur in -- hence the "no man knows the day or hour" still applies.
However that year may be very, very near, as shown by the events mentioned which have either already occurred or which might easily happen with little or no major changes on the world scene. For example in Ezekiel, God lays out the events that lead up to the invasion by Gog and Magog. This passage tells of the end of Jewish exile and the creation of a Jewish state:
Ezekiel 36:24: For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
This idea is repeated in Chapter 37:21-22
21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land.
22 And I will make them one nation upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.
These passages were written when Israel was a divided nation. Now, after over 2,000 years later, Israel is a single entity once again. These conditions have now been met with the creation of Israel in 1948 and the return of the Jews to this homeland. This event has occurred and the next chapter of Ezekiel is the invasion by Gog and Magog.
On our assembled puzzle timeline then, the next event is the Rapture. The stage is set for this to occur.
How far ahead of the invasion the Rapture occurs is unknown; but it would seem logical that it will come a very short time before the invasion, given the fact that such a momentous event as the sudden vanishing of a large chunk of the world's population will create the type of confusion that Gog and Magog might try to use to their advantage in attacking Israel. Or it may be that the two events will very nearly coincide so that the Rapture is missed during the noise and confusion of the fighting, earthquakes, and plagues.
Some have argued that the Jewish Temple must be built before the Rapture occurs. However this goes against the time-line of Ezekiel. Not until we reach Chapters 40 - 47:12 are the details of the rebuilding of Israel's Temple in Jerusalem given. The Rapture and the invasion must surely happen before the Temple is built, perhaps after the Antichrist has established his power.
Given the fact that plans are currently being made for the building of the new Temple in Israel, with some of the instruments and furnishings of the Temple being purchased and constructed, this also suggests that the time of these events may be very close.
The assembled puzzle shows that the picture is almost to take place. This is undoubtedly the most important point for both the believer and unbeliever alike. Time is short and must be used carefully, in prayer and witnessing so the world can know about the saving grace of God's Son, the Jewish Messiah and the Savior of all who would make Him their Lord.

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Patti C (16 Oct 2012)

Hello John and all Doves!
I have been able to keep reading most of the letters and have been greatly blessed by all the information that the Lord is communicating through all you wonderful people!!  As we draw nearer to the end of this year, I feel compelled to send a letter that I wrote way back in May.  The Lord put this date on my heart and even though there were so many other good dates before this one, I felt led to investigate its potential as a possible time. 
Because my time in limited in using this computer, I am just going to copy and paste my original letter.  Also, I was going to do more information, as in parts, but my research was lost when I lost my computer. therefore this is all that I have left.  I feel that others are also looking at possible December dates, so this may fit it at this juncture. Below is the original letter.
May, 2012
The Lord placed this date on my heart a few months ago, and since then, I have been looking into why this could possibly be an important date to look at.  From reading all the letters posted here, every day, I have been gathering information from a number a contributors and working on putting puzzle pieces together.  Each day, it seems I am giving a new piece and to put in this puzzle.
I also want to mention, that last year, before I had ever heard of Five Doves, I was led by the Lord to look into Chanukah as a possible rapture date, and when I found this website, there was so much support for it being a date of major consideration!!  I remember how very sure I felt that the Rapture would happen on the 4th day of Chanukah.  It seemed so right…so real!!! 
Since then, no other date has come close to giving me that feeling of certain departure.  I still believe that all the dates being mentioned for the Spring, Summer and Fall, have a great deal of validity, and I pray that we are gone before this coming December.  Yet, the intensity of the last year could mean that it was the right time, but just a year down the road.  We will see.
I am going to look at this date in many different ways.  That is why I am dividing this study into parts. First of all, I want to look at the numbers and their Biblical significance; the numbers 12 and the number 4. (Please note how these numbers also contain the numbers 3 and 7, 4X3=12 and 4+3=7) These numbers are perhaps the most sacred of all numbers. More on that later. 
12/12/12 is a date that could only happen every hundred years!! Also the number is made up of the numbers 3 and 4, which also have divine implications. We already know that 12 is the number of completion, and have to do with the Bride and New Jerusalem. It also symbolizes perfect government, thus pointing to the Bride ruling with Christ, in heaven.
Also, Chanukah starts on the 8th of December, this year, and the 4th day would be the 12th.  I really believe that the 4th day has special meaning and points directly to our Lord and Savior.  
I found a wonderful website that gives the total meaning of these numbers throughout the Bible and I will be quoting directly from site, but will not be including the whole commentaries.  If you would like to read all the info you can go to it directly:
We will look at the number 12 first, and then the number 4, as they very much relate to each other. 
Twelve is a perfect number, signifying perfection of government, or of governmental perfection. It is found as a multiple in all that has to do with rule. The sun which "rules" the day and the moon and stars which "govern" the night, do so by their passage through the twelve signs of the Zodiac which completes the great circle of the heavens of 360 (12 x 30) degrees or divisions, and thus govern the year.
Twelve is the product of 3 (the perfectly Divine and heavenly number) and 4 (the earthly, the number of what is material and organic). 
While seven is composed of 3 added to 4, twelve is 3 multiplied by 4, and hence denotes that which can scarcely be explained in words, but which the spiritual perception can at once appreciate, viz., organization, the products denoting production and multiplication and increase of all that is contained in the two numbers separately. The 4 is generally prominently seen in the twelve.
The number 12 is found 187 times total in the Bible, 22 of which are in the book of Revelation.
The number 12 represents divine authority and appointment, as well as governmental foundation and perfection, and shows completeness. 12 are also used as a signature of Israel. Truth is symbolized by 144, or 12 x 12.
There are 12 divisions of heaven called the Mazzaroth, which God uses for signs and seasons. The testimony of the stars is numerically in harmony with the Bible: "The heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament shows His handiwork" (Psalms 19:1).
There were 12 sons of Jacob, whose families formed the 12 tribes of Israel with 12 princes; there were also 12 princes of Ishmael.
The high priest’s breastplate, used for judgment, had 12 stones representing the 12 tribes. The showbread consisted of 12 loaves. During the period of the judges, 12 judges judged Israel. Solomon appointed 12 officers over Israel.
At age 12, Jesus appeared at the temple. Jesus ordained 12 apostles, who were sent with authority to preach the Gospel and to be witnesses of His resurrection. After His resurrection, Jesus told the apostles that He had been given all authority in heaven and earth — the divine authority of God. 
During the great tribulation, 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel are saved, totaling 144,000 (Revelation 7). A second 144,000 are gathered from the earth to serve the Lamb and follow Him (Revelation 14:1-5). The bride of Christ is pictured with a crown of 12 stars (Revelation 12:1). 
The New Jerusalem has 12 gates of pearls, 12 angels at the gates and the names of the 12 tribes of Israel over the gates. The wall of the city has 12 foundations of precious stones; in them are the names of the 12 apostles. The wall is 144 cubits high (12 x 12). The city is 12,000 furlongs (1,500 miles) square.
Now the number four is made up of three and one (3+1=4) and it denotes, therefore, and marks that which follows the revelation of God in the Trinity, namely, His creative works. He is known by the things that are seen. Hence the written revelation commences with the words, "In the beginning God CREATED." Creation is therefore the next thing - the fourth thing, and the number four always has reference to all that is created. It is emphatically the number of Creation; of man in his relation to the world as created.
What is the four-fold division of Mankind?
In Genesis 10, "the generations of the sons of Noah" are comprised in a four-fold description. However the order may be varied, the number is preserved:
Verse 5: lands, tongues, families, nations
Verse 20: families, tongues, countries, nations
Verse 31: families, tongues, lands, nations
Where is EVE mentioned by name in the Bible?
Four times "Eve" mentioned in the Bible by name:
•     Genesis 3:20
•     Genesis 4:1
•     2 Corinthians 11:3
•     1 Timothy 2:13
The Number 4 represents creation, which marks God’s creative works. It is the signature of the world.
The material creation was finished on the 4th day — with the sun, moon and stars ordained for 4 things:
•     Signs
•     Seasons
•     Days
•     Years
The 4th commandment — "Remember the Sabbath to keep it holy" — was given to man at creation.
There are 4 gospel accounts of Jesus’ life and ministry, each one of which emphasizes a different aspect of Jesus' ministry and sacrifice:
•     Matthew: Jesus as the Son of David and King
•     Mark: Jesus as the Suffering Servant
•     Luke: Jesus as the Perfect Man
John: Jesus as the Only Begotten Son of God.
FOUR:  The number 4 represents God's creative works, especially works associated with the earth:
•     4 cardinal directions N, S, E, W. with 4 Angels at four corners of the earth holding back the 4 winds of the world [Revelation 7:1].
•     The Covenant People of God had 4 divisions of daylight (Dawn - 9AM; 9AM-12 Noon; 12 Noon - 3PM; 3PM - Sunset).
•     4 lunar phases.
•     4 seasons.
•     4 rivers flowed out of Eden [Genesis 2:10].
•     4 consonants formed God's covenant name YHWH.
•     4 cherubim [Genesis 3:22-24; Ezekiel 1:10].
•     In Ezekiel's vision of the heavenly throne/chariot the cherubim each had 4 faces with four wheels [Ezekiel 1:10-12].
•     4 women gave birth to the fathers of the 12 Tribes of Israel.
•     The prayer shawl has 4 corners with 4 tassels [Numbers 15:38-39].
•     4 heavenly creatures. [Revelation 4:6-8]
•     Israelite camp divided into 4 parts when camping around the tabernacle [Numbers 2:1-34].
•     4th book of the Bible is Numbers, in Hebrew B'Midbar = gematria 248 or 4 x 62.
•     The ancients considered there to be 4 elements, earth, fire, air, and water.
•     Bible has 4-fold division of mankind: lands, tongues, families and nations [Revelation 13:7].
•     4 cups of wine are used at the Passover Seder.
There is so much more information about these numbers, but for my purposes here I just want to get at the essence of them, and how they apply to the Bride of Christ, and the Rapture of the Church.
We can easily see that the number 12 is the perfect number to represent the Bride. The number 12 represents perfection and completion, and then number 4 represents Creation and all that has been created on earth.  The Bride would be the perfection of the Lord’s creation, out of mankind, and the Christ is the Lord of Creation.  All the 4’s mentioned above points to Christ… all of creation, the 4 gospels the 4th commandment to honor the Sabbath, (Jesus is the Sabbath) as he is the Temple, and He is all and everything.
How this plays into the date 12/12/12 as a date to look at for rapture is still to be seen.  Yet, this all stands out to me as the most numerically perfect date!! 
Yet,the major reason I am looking at this date is what is happening in the world right now, and all the heavenly signs occurring around this date.  Yet, the main one remains the fact, the Lord put this date in my mind and heart, and how intensely I felt about rapture being on the 4th day of Chanukah, last year.  I really feel that it was the right day, just the wrong year.
That is the original letter, and I would like to add a few other thoughts to it, now.  I strongly feel that rapture has to happen before the end of this year, before that last portal of evil opens up on December 21st and the END OF THE AGE!!!   Jesus plainly told us that He would be with us until the end of the age, it is my highest hope that at the end of the Age we will be with Him!!  I pray that will be the case!!
Thank you John and all doves for all for your wonderful letters and all the blessings and encouragement they bring!!  You are always in my thoughts and prayers.  Much agape love to everyone!!
May God bless you all as we ready ourselves to take the ultimate JOURNEY!!
Patti C.
                       Ola Ilori (19 Oct 2012)

Hi Doves,
All the Fall Feasts for 2012 have come and gone without the Rapture taking place. Over the Years I've learnt that rapture dates should only be viewed as possible dates, regardless of the evidence suggesting otherwise.
For we all have the tendency to ignore rapture dates that don't agree with our own. 
We should all be willing to admit we could be wrong and be open to other possible rapture dates being revealed to other saints.
Over the Years many Christians have had dreams of the Rapture occurring just before or on Christmas Day itself!
For this reason, I believe our next Rapture watch window should be during the Christmas Week.
In the Year 2007, Becki had the following dream, my comments follow.
She wrote,
"I would like to tell you all about a dream that I had in 2007.

It may just be only a dream, but it seemed so real to me.

In March of 2007 my sister past away. Oh, how I missed her so much. We were very close. We saw each other almost everyday or we would talk on the phone.
She was 40 when she passed away.

After she died, I had prayed and prayed to the Lord to please let me have a dream about her because I missed her so much. After a couple of months I got my dream.

In my dream I was so happy to see her. We were walking down a road and she wanted to show me a store. The name of the store was "Temple Mount Gift Shop".
Inside the store were thousands of bicycles. They were everywhere. You could hardly move around the shop for all the bicycles. They were even hanging from the ceiling.  I asked her why there are so many bicycles, and she said there would be lots and lots of kids there in time for Christmas.
And finally, a British You-Tube poster (who was not at all familiar with the Vincent Tan encounter) decoded the Key by adding the sums of the successive dates in countdown fashion since the turn of the century:
Hanukkah begins at sunset Saturday, December 8, 2012 and ends at nightfall Sunday, December 16, 2012
VR2 (25 June 2012)
"Another Confirmation Of The Soon Rapture"

Dear Doves,
Last night I read parts of a book, "Dead To Live Again" I had read about 4 years ago.  It's the story of Ronald Posey, who had died three times between May 11 and July 27, 2002, had gone to paradise and back.  Ronnie was a dear, loving man, who I had to opportunity to meet and talk with in 2008.  
Well, I wanted to read the book again, especially the part that talked about the valley of decision.  I love this book and am so lifted up and encouraged when I read it.  
I had forgotten a really interesting part of the book, until I read it again last night.  When Ronnie was talking and walking with God, he asked Him when He was going to send Jesus to get His bride.  Here is what is written in the book: 
 "Soon.  Very soon.  See that portal?  Go look through it."
 I did, and saw the number seventy.
 "If you live to be that age, there is a great possibility that you will be in the catching away of the saints."
There is more, much more, but that is one of the high points.  In fact, Ronnie told me the book would be way too big if he put everything in there that he saw and heard.  It really is an amazing book and my spirit attests and lines up with it, that it is true when I read it.  He even described the large table where the marriage supper would take place...what the serving pieces and even the chairs looked like.  Beautiful!
Ronnie was born in April 5, 1943.  He passed away one or two years ago.  So if he had lived to be 70, that would be April of 2013.  That is less than 10 months away...so any time before that.  Wow!  So exciting!