Rene (30 Oct 2012)
"re: Frank Molver  ---- "whip the bride""

Frank, no, I did not forget the scripture about judgment beginning at the house of God. I was talking about people who think that to qualify for the RAPTURE, you have to go through some sort of purification (whipping) process. Yet, there are millions of Christians who passed on before us who never went through any kind of "judgment" or "whipping" and they will RISE BEFORE WE DO at the rapture! Sure, there are also millions who were martyred for their faith, especially during the DARK AGES, but I do not believe that for those of us who are looking for the appearing of our Lord in Glory to take us home, he has to beat us into some kind of "holy" shape before he comes!!! THAT IS WHAT I MEANT!!!! There are thousands of Christians now being tortured and KILLED for their faith in Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Indonesia, and other countries!!! The Church in general certainly comes under judgment from time-to-time. A good example is in places like CUBA and GERMANY when the Christians suffered under God's judgement of those nations, but it was because they had EVIL people that came into power over them. And many times it was because they all just sat back in their LUKEWARM chairs of indifference and let it happen without opening their mouth!!!  Then when they did open their mouth, it was TOO LATE!!!!!  Just as it will happen in AMERICA if B.O. gets another 4 years and people who CLAIM to be Christians sit on the fence and REFUSE to VOTE the bum out!!! Christians in Norway won't suffer because of his EVIL, Christians in Bolivia won't suffer because of his evil, neither will Christians in Spain or Portugal or England or the Netherlands or Australia or Denmark, Belgium, Canada or Singapore. But those of us in the U.S. WILL!!!!!!   IF he turns out to be the Son of Perdition as many believe, then yes - eventually, the whole world will feel his wrath. We don't know God's timetable though. We thought the rapture was coming in 1988 and 1998 and in 1999, then again in 2000 and 2004 and 2005 and 2007 and 2010 and 2011, but guess what - we are still here and it has not yet happened. We HOPE it will happen soon, like this year! But we have no way of knowing for sure. In the MEANTIME, we are to pray that we can LIVE IN PEACE so that the gospel can continue to go forth into all the world!!!! And you sure cannot live in peace if you have a vile, despicable, lying, godless, anti-Semitic, murdering (pro-abortion) leader running things!