Carol,
Jonathan is not saying that we are ALL
FALLEN ANGELS. He is saying we are like them because we
have TWO natures, a DUAL nature. The Bible speaks of
this dual nature all through the New Testament. Read it
for yourself. Paul even laments the fact that his
body of sin and death does not do what he wants it to
do, but what he does not want it to do. He said
"O wretched man that I am," and realized that only God
could deliver him from this body of sin and death.
Right before the flood, angels did come
down and have relations with HUMAN women and the women
bore giants. Jonathan says that the seed of the human
race was corrupted due to this mixing of 2 different
DNAs, however, we already had "bad seed," because we
inherited ADAM's DNA! This just made everything worse!
This is why Jesus said "Ye must be born again." We
inherited Adam's sinful nature and later, our DNA was
also mixed (some of it) with fallen angels. The thing I
disagree with re Jonathan is that I don't believe the
mixing of the DNA of the fallen angels with humans
(which IS what happened) corrupted the entire human
race. We ALREADY had Adam's fallen nature, so even
if the angels had not had relations with human women, we
would still have needed redemption. I believe that
Noah's seed was not corrupted with the DNA of the fallen
angels and this is why God chose him and his sons to go
on the ARK and start a new race where the seed was NOT
corrupted by the DNA of the fallen angels
--- and that the seed that came up through David
and eventually the bloodline of Joseph (husband of Mary)
was not corrupted with the DNA of fallen angels. Now, we
know that Jesus' blood was NOT from Joseph, it was
divine, pure blood from the FATHER who overshadowed Mary
via the Holy Spirit so that Jesus was conceived. His
blood came from God Himself! I believe that the DNA from
those fallen angels who left their first estate and
mingled with human women did corrupt part of the human
race, because after the flood, they appeared again and
we know that in these last days, they are busy once
again co-mingling with human women! How much of that
race is corrupted, we have no way of knowing - only God
knows. The devil has always been trying to corrupt the
SEED of the woman because that is where the promise of
the Messiah would come. But, women don't carry the
"seed", they carry the egg. The seed came from God
Himself. Jesus had God's DNA, not ours! Jesus did not
inherit the curse of sin that came through ADAM. That is
why he is called the SECOND ADAM!
I think that the only thing Jonathan has
wrong is that he sees the ENTIRE human race as corrupted
with the DNA of the fallen angels. Well, as stated
earlier, we already inherited our sinful nature from
Adam and needed redemption. The angels who co-mingled
with the human women and had offspring did not corrupt
the entire human race with the DNA of fallen angels. We
were already in hot water before that happened! We
already needed redemption because of the sin of Adam
& Eve, so we already had "bad blood," or bad DNA
that we got from our father, Adam. Do you and I
have some DNA that came from those angels? Only God can
answer that question. Only HE knows what our genetic
make-up is. Remember though that Jesus called Judas a
devil. That is an ominous statement implying that Judas
had the devil's DNA.
I have heard some theologians express
the belief that Cain was an offspring of Eve having
relations with the serpent (fallen angel), because Cain
is described as being from that wicked one. Only God
Himself knows who is truly fully human and capable of
being redeemed by his blood and who (among us) is so
polluted with the DNA of the devil that they are not
capable of being redeemed. I have read testimonies of
women who were involved in Satan worship who claim that
the devil impregnated them. This is no fable. When the
UFO beings come down what are they most interested in?
They are interested in the SEED of humans and in BLOOD
and WATER! They extract sperm from men and eggs from
their female victims!
Think about that for several minutes and
let it sink in! They are creating true HYBRIDS, fallen
creatures that can never be redeemed. Bill
Schnoebelen has several U tube videos and he was deeply
involved in the world of the occult. He wrote a book
about it that I read many years ago. I am saying all
that to say this - when it comes to Jonathan Kleck,
don't throw out the baby with the bath water. Jonathan
is onto something, but he only has part of the picture.
That's how God is. He gives a little here, a little
there to different people. People are getting
saved and born again reading his testimony and watching
his videos.
Rene