Lyle Cooper (31
VanGerpen (29 Oct 2011),"RE: Do the 144,000 Really
Brothers and Sisters in Christ,
There is a myth that these 144,000 are to minister and
evangelize. It is a myth, because the bible does not give us
even a hint of this.
Amy posted Isaiah 61:6 right after Rev.7: 2-4 as if these
144000 were anointed by the Holy Spirit! This is certainly
not even hinted at by John. We get this anointing by
receiving the mighty baptism with the Holy Spirit. These are
sealed in their forehead because they are NOT born again and
have the seal in their spirits as we do. This sealing is NOT
for ministry, it is for their PROTECTION. Since the 70th
week will begin with the 7th seal, right after they are
sealed, we can see that they are sealed for their protection
during the trumpet judgments.
Just a little common sense: if they were born again at this
time, just before the start of the 70th week, would they not
then be caught up with the church? Would they not be a PART
of the church? Of course they would! And they would not then
be on the earth to do anything. But the fact is, they ARE on
the earth during the trumpet judgments, then are caught up
to heaven as firstfruits very near the midpoint of the
week. John shows us clearly that they are in heaven when
they are seen again. You cannot be before the throne and
around the 4 beasts and 24 elders unless you are in heaven!
It is very possible that they DO get born again after they
see the rapture took many saints to heaven, and THEY MISSED
The rapture may very well be what turns them to Christ. Will
they witness? If they get born again, surely they will. But
John does not tell us this.
The scene changes when John sees the great crowd in heaven.
There is nothing written that ties this scene to the sealing
of the 144,00 at all. It is just that these two events, the
sealing and the rapture of the church, MUST come to pass
before the 7th seal officially opens the 70th week.
Yes, this great crowd John saw in heaven, around the throne,
is the BRIDE of Christ, having just been raptured.
Please note, John has not yet even started the 70th week,
MUCH LESS got to the second half of the week when those days
of great tribulation Jesus spoke of will begin. So
these are NOT 70th week martyrs! There is not one hint they
are martyrs at all.
No, what John is telling us is that tribulation will get
worse and worse, until people are DYING for their testimony
around the world by the time we get to the rapture of the
church. Can "tribulation" be any greater for those put to
death for the Word of God?