"Re: Kevin Heckle: "Morning Star""
Marilyn,
Below
I’ve posted 2 Peter 1:19 wherein the Spirit speaks of the ‘day star’,
metaphorically speaking of Christ ‘RISING’ in our hearts and certainly lights
the way in the darkest time before dawn.
2
Peter 1:19 We
have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye
take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day
dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
φωσφόρος
(Strong’s G5459) day star-phosphorus as defined by the
Thayer’s Lexicon as ‘light bringing, giving light; the planet Venus,
the morning star, day star; metaphorically Christ
1
Corinthians 15:41 says that each celestial body has its own glory for
“one star differeth from another star in glory”. Jesus distinctly
says that he is the lampros or BRIGHT and ‘morning star’
meaning metaphorically brilliant, splendid or magnificent (G2986).
Venus is the brightest of any object in the sky even at its
dimmest crescent phase, surpassed only by the Sun (-26.74) and the Moon
(-12.92) whereas Saturn (+1.47) is the dimmest visible planet in
our solar system, at its brightest phase (-0.49). Saturn is outshined by
Sirius, Canopus, Alpha-Centauri, Arcturus and Vega which are the top brightest
stars beyond the Sun.
The
faintest object visible during the day must exceed -4.00 apparent
magnitude (negative number is higher) and Venus is the ONLY ‘day
star’ that can exceed that at -4.67 apparent magnitude making it the
only possible ‘day star’. It literally can be the ONLY ‘day star’ as
metaphorically speaking of Jesus, the BRIGHT and Morning
Star.
As
for Jesus throne being Saturn, I find that a stretch. The sun, moon and
stars were creations intended to signify time and as special signs not
the literal throne of the Lord. This whole creation groans in travail,
the heavens (1st and 2nd) waiting to pass away and
become new. I know Paul’s being caught up to the third heaven has been
debated here before. My take is that our atmosphere is the first
‘heavens’ the Bible speaks of; the second heaven is outside of our atmosphere
and encompassing the whole of the Universe, all of which will pass away and
become new; the ‘third’ heaven Paul is speaking of is that spiritual realm
outside of our three-dimensional space and time. There may well be higher
levels of heaven, as Enoch so indicates and Jesus also says that there are
many dwelling places there.
My
point about any ‘morning star’ as rising with the Sun, may well be
visible before the sun rises. However, as a morning star delineates TIME
(as God intended) and seasons, the point at which it is rising exactly with
the Sun, is sort of like the second hand on a clock meeting with the minute
hand. Marking morning appearances of heavenly objects with the sun has
been used since the beginning. The seasons of the planets, stars and
moon or combination can demarcate time specifically. An object that is
visible at the zenith at midnight, was most likely rising at SUNDOWN in the
east and will set at DAWN in the west.
Now
if the Hebrew day starts at sundown (marking also the end of the day),
darkness lasting 12 hours and daylight, 12 hours (more or less) an ‘evening
and morning’. Dawn is the middle of one Hebrew day, the beginning
of ‘morning’ which lasts 12 hours (John 11:9) until the end of the day,
‘evening’. Does this indicate that Jesus (the morning star) will come
just before dawn, in the middle (morning) of that last day
(tribulation time period)? I’m not trying to say that Jesus will come
back at 6AM, 6:15AM, etc. as that would depend just where in the wide world
you lived ;-)
Rolleston’s
work the ‘Mazzaroth’ (ie. Gospel in the Stars) while fascinating, I’m afraid a
lot of it is purely speculative and has very slim basis in Biblical
text. Of course I’m speculating as well regarding Dan. 8, but it is hard
to ignore specific descriptions matching eons old constellation
identifiers. Are there lots of 2-horned beasts in the mythical sky? A
few, but only one by the ‘river’ in the sky (Taurus) and only one with a
notable single horn (Capricorn), also by the river just across the whole earth
from the west, exactly where the narrative describes as Daniel ‘lift’s up his
eyes’.
One
astounding thing about Saturn, right around the time of Jesus’ birth (6 BC or
5 BC) is that it hovered very near the vernal equinox just between Aries and
Pisces. The vernal equinox also passed into Pisces from Aries (because
of precession) in similitude of the ages phasing from the old sacrificial
system under the law to the age of grace where a few fishes fed multitudes by
the hand of Jesus!
Saturn
is a very important time-piece for sure. Interestingly, 70
orbits of Saturn (10,758.975 days per orbit) falls on the
1290th morning rising (583.92 day average synodic
period) of Venus.
(1290
x 583.92)/10,758.975 = 70.01 orbits OR 2,062.00 Earth
years.
Thanks
for your response!
In
Christ,
Kevin Heckle