Hi:> > My take is that our atmosphere is the first ‘heavens’ the Bible speaks of; the second heaven is outside of our atmosphere and encompassing the whole of the Universe, all of which will pass away and become new; the ‘third’ heaven Paul is speaking of is that spiritual realm outside of our three-dimensional space and time.That is exactly how I outsmarted myself for many years. I went by that because a similar note was printed in my Bible. Every time I would think something sounded like Saturn, I'd say to myself, "Nah, that can't be."Until the day I looked up the word sapphire in my Webster's Collegiate Dictionary. It said sapphire meant dear to the planet Saturn from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear. I whispered to myself, "Then its true," as goosebumps like electricity ran all over my body for quite awhile.Oh wow! then Eze 1:28 is talking about Saturn's rings. It says, "As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about."In 1:1, Ezekiel said, "the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God. Where did he see God? The only possible place is in verse 26.It says, "And above the firmament (expanse of space) that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a SAPPHIRE stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a MAN above upon it." Then this "MAN" is the God/man Jesus Christ, the Redeemer (Isa. 44:6). And he is sitting on a sapphire throne that has brightness like the rainbow all around it.
Ex 24:10 also mentions sapphire. It says, "And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a SAPPHIRE stone, and as it were the body of heaven (i.e., as if it were the heavenly body) in his (or its) clearness."
Jesus was born on the Feast of Trumpets in September. His birthstone is the sapphire, which means heaven. Saturn's symbol is an "h" for heaven. How many tips do we need?
The "God of Israel" sits on a sapphire throne and rests his feet on a sapphire pavement. Why? So the wise can understand where the throne of this God/man is located.
It is Paradise, the "third heaven" Paul was caught up to in II Cor. 12:2-4.
Josephus, a Pharisee priest, indicated that the 7 lamps on the lampstand stood for the Sun (the western lamp that was always to be kept burning), Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn (Ant. III. VI. 7, on Whiston's page 73, and Wars V. V. 5, on page 555). From Earth, which lamp represented the third heaven? The Sun or Saturn? Venus isn't even in the running.> > 2 Peter 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts
The Analytical-Literal Translation (ALT) says, "And we have the prophetic word [made] more certain [or, confirmed], to which you* do well [to be] paying close attention to, as a lamp shining in a dark place, until [the] day dawns and a MORNING STAR arises in your hearts [fig., inner selves];Strong's G5459 says, "phosphoros...light bearing ("phosphorus"), that is, (specifically) the morning star (figuratively): - day star."Therefore, it too is specifically talking about Christ being the morning star.> > Jesus distinctly says that he is the lampros or BRIGHT and ‘morning star’ meaning metaphorically brilliant, splendid or magnificent (G2986). Venus is the brightest of any object in the sky even at its dimmest crescent phase, surpassed only by the Sun (-26.74) and the Moon (-12.92) whereas Saturn (+1.47) is the dimmest visible planet in our solar system, at its brightest phase (-0.49).However, over Jerusalem at dawn on Cheshvan 17, 5771, Saturn will be the only morning star. Saturn will still be UP ahead of the Sun, and Venus will still be SET, following the Sun.> > Does this indicate that Jesus (the morning star) will come just before dawn, in the middle (morning) of that last day (tribulation time period)?Not to me. Rev 22:16-17 is talking about his coming at the First-Trump Rapture of the church, not at Mid-Trib. It says, "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root (YHWH) and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. And the Spirit and the bride say, Come."My grandson just rushed in to tell me to come see a magnificent rainbow. It was very thick and complete. We could see both ends. We were centered facing the fantastic thing. It looked like it was over the 215 freeway at March Air Reserve Base, about 5 miles from us, about where the tornado touched down awhile back. I could just barely pick out a second bow above that one. I wished I could see it more clearly. I could see it best with my sunglasses on and by shading my eyes with my hands. The sky was light underneath and dark above it. Thank you Lord for the sign of your covenant. In Jesus' name, Amen.
In Gen 9:13, the Lord said, "I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth."About half an hour later, I went out for food and stopped at the grocery store on the way back. When I walked out of Ralph's at Troutwein and Allesandro, another similar rainbow was facing me, but it was much closer than the first one. It looked like it was just a little east of the shopping center. It was so gorgeous. The colors were much clearer because it was so close to me. I had no trouble seeing it clearly. I hated to get in the van and drive home. What a treat. What a beautiful sign. Thank you Lord.
Kevin Heckle (30 Sep 2010)
"Re: Kevin Heckle: "Morning Star""
2 Peter 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
φωσφόρος (Strong’s G5459) day star-phosphorus as defined by the Thayer’s Lexicon as ‘light bringing, giving light; the planet Venus, the morning star, day star; metaphorically Christ