"The 70th Week, the Rapture,
& the Feast of Tabernacles"
Kevin Drake wrote:
"Again, why doesn't the account in John 7 show Him going to the
feast the "day before the week begins"? Which is what we would
expect in regard to what we were all taught concerning the
pre-Trib Rapture before a seven year Tribulation Period.
The answer should be apparent if this is any prophetic type
concerning the 70th Week and leading to the millennial Kingdom!
The prophetic "type" found in John 7 indicates that Christ comes
for the resurrection/rapture in the "midst" or in the 4th year
(the 4th year being that whole year from Rosh 2010 to Rosh 2011)
of Daniel’s 70th Week (which we believe occurs from Rosh 2007 to
Rosh 2014), NOT before the 70th Week begins."
Types are ok, IF they are a true type. But types are not in ANY
WAY a substitute for the real. So lets look at the real, and see
if all this is a true type.
1 Thes. 4 & 5
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a
shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the
trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up
together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in
the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have
no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord
so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden
destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman
with child; and they shall not escape.
After Paul writes the classic rapture scripture, he writes of
times and seasons. Well, isn't TIME what we all want to know
about the rapture? In fact, if we just read on, Paul is going to
TELL US the timing of the rapture. It really is not a mystery.
Paul tells us that a SUDDENLY happens. And when this suddenly
happens, TWO DIFFERENT outcomes occur, for TWO DIFFERENT groups
We see the first group of people identified in verse 3 as
"THEM." It is a time of "peace and safety." Then a SUDDENLY:
"sudden destruction" comes upon "them." And the flip side is
true also: the "sudden destruction" does NOT come upon "us." But
why? Before we answer that, notice that BOTH Jesus and the "day
of the Lord" come as a thief on the night. That means SUDDENLY,
without warning, at a time not expected. Now, remember, there
are two different outcomes for two different groups, happening
at the same time.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in
darkness, that that day should overtake you as a
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the
day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let
us watch and be sober.
7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be
drunken are drunken in the night.
8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the
breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope
This identifies the second group, "YE," and "US." They and them
are of the darkness, while we and us are of the light. They
sleep, while we watch. This is not speaking of natural sleep,
but a state of mind. We KNOW Jesus is coming, and are ever
longing for Him to come. They are not expecting Him at all. We
already read that "they" and "them" get sudden destruction. Now
in verse 8, we have the hope of salvation. But what exactly does
Paul mean by these words? The next two words will make it clear.
9 For God hath not appointed us to
wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we
should live together with him.
Now, remember what we read in the last verse of chapter 4: "and
so shall we ever be with the Lord." Compare with "we should live
together with Him." Are they not saying the same thing? If we
are "ever with the Lord" at the rapture, don't we then "live
together with Him?" And if we "live together with Him," while
"they" and "them" are getting the "sudden destruction," are we
not then, ever with the Lord? Since this verse is only a few
verses after the classic rapture verse, it would be silly to try
and come up with a different meaning. Indeed, Paul has never
left his theme: the rapture. Now he as given us he TIME of the
rapture: it will come during a time of peace and safety, and
JUST BEFORE the "sudden destruction" that starts the Day of the
Lord. Paul is telling us that "they" and "them" DO HAVE an
appointment with wrath, so they get the sudden destruction;
while we in the Light have no such appointment, and get
"salvation" (rapture) and are then ever with the Lord.
When will the "Day of the Lord" start? We only need to read:
17For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be
able to stand?
If we dig into the verb tense of the Greek, this does not mean
it starts with the world wide earthquake of the 6th seal, but
that with the signs in the sun and moon, the Day of the Lord in
IMMINENT: it is about to start. It starts at the 7th seal, and
with the first trumpet. Therefore, Paul is telling us that the
rapture MUST COME before the 7th seal. In fact, if we dig
deeper, this "sudden destruction" of Paul, is the world wide
earthquake of the 6th seal.
Now note that right after the 6th seal, John sees the crowd in
heaven, too large to count.
9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which
no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and
people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before
the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God
which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about
the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on
their faces, and worshipped God,
12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and
thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our
God for ever and ever. Amen.
13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are
these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me,
These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have
washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the
This sounds like the church, because it IS the church,
having just been raptured! They were rapture JUST BEFORE the
world wide earthquake that caused the sudden destruction.
Some people get distracted by the two words, "great
tribulation." John is NOT saying that these come of of that time
that begins at the abomination, and is caused by the beast.
Indeed, John as NOT YET STARTED THE 70th week! How could these
come from the second half of the week, if John as not yet begun
the week? Indeed, they could not. All John is telling us is that
at the time of the rapture, people will be dying around the
world, for their testimony. It will get great tribulation around
the world. What could be greater than if you die?
Therefore, Paul does indeed give us the timing of the rapture:
it is JUST BEFORE the start of the Day of the Lord. It comes
just before the great worldwide earthquake at the 6th seal.
Indeed, the dead in Christ rising may just CAUSE the worldwide
earthquake. (See Matthew 27:51-52)