Jovial (14 Oct 2010)
"Response to Michael on "The 3 Woes will last MORE THAN 90 months, so 2008-2015 can't be "the 7-year trib" period""

There were several issues raised at http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2010/michaelc1013-2.htm I'd like to address.
 
(1) "please consider Tim La Haye's excellent book, Revelation Unveiled."
 
This response represents exactly what I have been saying is wrong.  I said yesterday that people have missed the real timing clues in Scripture because they have been too pre-occupied trying to fit the timing of everything into this 7 year box that tradition has told them over and over again everything must fit in.  They don't even realize that the tradition they refuse to rethink is only a couple hundred years old anyway.  We need to examine what SCRIPTURE tells us about the timing of the tribulation period, and then all of  a sudden Scripture will make sense when we stop trying to fit it into the boxes that the 19th century tradition about a 7 year trib period tells us.
 
(2) "to say that Israel must suffer 90 months or more borders on the ridiculous, if not outright insanity"
 
I never said ISRAEL would suffer more than 7 years.  This again represents what is wrong with how too many people have not re-thought what they have been taught.
 
God will deal with Israel for the 7 years discussed in Daniel 9:27.  After that 7 year period is over with,  Israel will go into exile and cease to be a nation.  Jerusalem will be possessed by the Gentiles for  the 42 months following that 7 year period and after the 7 year period is over with, G-d will deal with the Gentiles.
 
We're told in the writings of Paul that the Gospel is to the Jew first, and then the Gentile.  The same pattern will occur in the End Times.  G-d will deal with Israel during the 7 years of Daniel 9:27.  Then Israel will no longer exist and he will pour out His wrath on the Gentiles for 3.5 years.  He will also pour His wrath out on the nations during parts of the 7 years He is dealing with Israel, but it will turn at the end of the last "Seven" and be different, more accelerated, etc.
 
The reason a lot of people have missed this point is because they've let replacement theology cloud their thinking.  They think Israel doesn't matter to G-d anymore and everything Scripture says about Israel applies to the Church now.  Not true.  G-d is not done with Israel.
 
(3) "please, restrain from making our loving God out to be a meanie!!
 
Let me get this straight;  I point out how the 3 woes add up to at least 90 months, and that makes G-d a "meanie"?  One could use this argument to say hell doesn't exist and the book of Revelation doesn't belong in the Bible.  Suddenly we're being told that in the tribulation period lasts 7 years or 84 months that is not mean, but if it lasts 90 months, those extra 6 months make G-d a "meanie", thus those extra 6 months can't be true. 
 
What is harsher?  To burn in hell forever or put up with earthquakes, tornadoes, wars, etc., for 6 months in THIS life?  If punishing the guilty by burning them in hell forever does not make G-d a "meanie", then how could an extra 6 months or an extra 3.5 years added to the timeline of the trib period make G-d a "meanie"? 
 
I would think that most of you by now have learned not to judge doctrine by what makes G-d a "meanie" in your mind or not.  By that standard, hell, judgement, payment for sin, and any notion that there will be a false messiah, even the existance of a "satan" would have to be rejected.  This is not sound decision making. 
 
We need to examine the Scriptures and see exactly what timing clues it gives us.  There are holes, and I pointed that out two days ago.  But  there's enough data filled in that we can safely say the 3 woes last no less than 90 months.