Hi Frank,I am in agreement with you. I like your line of thinking about the antichrist having a nemeses. I wish I would have thought of that! :) Anyway, here are my thoughts on the issue. The accompanying charts can be found on my website @ http://www.trackingbibleprophecy.com/revelation.php.Also, due to some appreciated feedback from a few Doves, I have also included a chart on that webpage that includes the pre-Tribulation rapture.Maranatha!Amy Van Gerpen~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Reasons why the 2 witnesses' ministry will likely cover most of the 2nd half of the Tribulation:>>The 2nd and 3rd Bowl Judgments turn all the bodies of water to blood. Mankind will have a matter of days, to maybe weeks, to survive after these two Judgments alone. If the Trumpet Judgments were in the first half of the Tribulation, then you would have a period of almost 3 ½ years during the "Great Tribulation", where there would not be any direct Judgments from God until the end of the Great Tribulation; other than giving Satan authority to rule and overcome the Saints. It makes more sense for the Seal Judgments and their continuing, and worsening, consequences to cover the first half of Daniel's 70th Week. The Trumpet and Bowl Judgments would then cover the 3 ½ years known as the "Great Tribulation". This would continue the pattern of "birth pangs" increasing in frequency and intensity, where the worst occur in the last 3 ½ years. That being said, there is nothing in Scripture that prohibits the Trumpet Judgments overlapping both halves of Daniel's 70th week. In other words, the 21 Judgments could be spread across the whole 7 years. However, the Seal Judgments appear to be released in rapid succession near the beginning of the 7 years with the consequences continuing, and worsening, through the whole Tribulation.>>The two witnesses' ministry begins after the Temple is rebuilt and ends with the 7th Trumpet Judgment. Because the 7 year covenant in Daniel 9 is broken by the defiling of the Temple, this would suggest the permission to build the Temple is in the covenant itself. Since the two witnesses arrive on the scene after the Temple is standing, then their ministry would not begin right at the beginning of the Tribulation.
>>The fact that the holy city will be "tread...underfoot for forty-two months" by the Gentiles (Revelation 11:2) right before the beginning of the two witnesses' ministry, points to it starting near the middle of the Tribulation. During the first half of the Tribulation, the Jews will live in Jerusalem under the protection of the covenant (Daniel 9:27). That is, until the antichrist breaks the covenant in the middle of the Tribulation. The second half, or 42 months, of the Tribulation is when Jerusalem will be taken over by the antichrist and the Gentiles, as the Jewish remnant flees to the mountains. In the context of Revelation 11 then, the two witnesses come on the scene just as Jerusalem is about to be taken over, nearing the middle of the Tribulation.
>>Just because the two witnesses' ministry is the same number of days as the 2nd Half of the Tribulation, we cannot make the assumption that it has to fit into one half or the other. There is nothing I can find in Scripture that would prohibit their ministry overlapping the two halves of the Tribulation. In addition, there is no Scripture that specifies that the first half of the Tribulation is exactly 1,260 days, just that it is 3 ½ years (Daniel 9:27).
>>Though I cannot be dogmatic on the issue, I think a likely scenario could be that the two witnesses' ministry begins 1,263-1,264 days before the Feast of Trumpets. This would be about two weeks before the "abomination of desolation" of the Temple that particular year. My thinking here is the two witnesses would rise from the dead on the Feast of Trumpets the year Jesus returns. Right after this, the 7th Trumpet will sound, which will announce Jesus' return to Earth (Revelation 11:15-18) and fulfill the Feast of Trumpets. The next 10 days, known as the "days of awe" by the Jews, between the Feast of Trumpets and the Feast of Atonement, the Bowl Judgments would be poured out. Jesus would return on the Feast of Atonement. The last Feast, Tabernacles, would be fulfilled by the Marriage Supper of the Lamb.
Frank R Molver (15 Oct 2010)
"Jovial's alternative timeline of the last 7 years."
Thank you Joe for the suggestion to look at the prophetic timetable at a different angle.
I think perhaps you also may have a misinterpretation on at least one major thing.
That is the time frame for the 2 witnesses.
I will not use a bunch of scripture but a comparison in bible history.
The types of AC in the past always had their nemeses the prophets to dog them.
I think it will be the same once again, they will be the needles whom persecute the unrighteous one until the day they are taken away.
Now on a personal note, I believe like many others that Obama is somehow linked to the great evil starting.
I have shared this from a personal testimony like some others have.
It is nothing that I can prove scripturally other then the lightning cast down from heaven scripture some have referred to.
Also, all seriousness aside, you mentioned that the Jews missed Jesus because of
wrong preconceptions of scripture. I think Jewish Christians are still doing that now, just like many of us.
Which of coarse probably includes you.
And me.
And the rest of us
Amen
franko