Ellen Gonzalez (21 Oct 2006)
"More info about what the Lord showed me in 1 Thess 4: 16-17"

   Two sharp people caught my error in the original post, so this revised one is correct. Even though I proofread it, in my excitement to send it I failed to check it with my previous post. Read the link for the first post as to how the Lord showed me the date that day, and today's post gives additional information that seem to confirm it all. For those of us who believe in the blessed hope, and are watching for His return for us at the Rapture, this is exciting!
    I have never claimed to be a prophet, just a watchman, and as such I am to report what I have been shown. I believe what I am reporting is what the Lord showed me, but I am not saying the Lord told me to say "Thus sayeth the Lord, the Rapture will be November 8, 2006." What I am saying is that there are some amazing clues here that support the even more amazing clues that the numbers guys find and report. I do not believe one of them has ever said "Thus sayeth the Lord", but are also reporting the interesting things they find that point to this date as something of significance. The scoffers will always scoff, just as we are told in 1 Peter 3:3-4:
 
"Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation."
 
     I believe that the Lord will give ALL His people at least some notice, more than likely a week, as Noah was given. There is SO much info the guys are getting from lots of sources, that relates to Biblical things and points to November 8, 2006, but it is extra-biblical. That is why I asked the Lord a few weeks ago if Nov 8 were the date of the rapture, not another event such as a great earthquake, which they could be mistaken about, to show me IN HIS WORD, very simple. That is why I went to 1 Thess 4: 16-17, one of the biggest verses describing what will happen at what is commonly referred to as the rapture.  I figured if there was going to be a clue about when, it would be right there. I described all this in this letter:
 
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2006/elleng106-2.htm
 
    Today I wrote this down, and here is what I found, very simple. These are the phrases which are contained within the : colons : and describe the event which will happen to us:
 
: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air :
 
  I saw there were 4 simple phrases, and they consist of the following numbers of words in each group:
 
and the dead in Christ shall rise first   8 words                                         
 
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up   11 words
 
together with them in the clouds   6 words
 
to meet the Lord in the air     7 words
 
   There it is, 8 - 11 -  6, and the seven remaining words represent completeness, finality, and victory! November 8, 2006. Now do you suppose the devil did that? He didn't write the Bible, the Lord did! Do you think I manipulated things with words and numbers? It is very evident, because as I just now saw, and I prayed earlier today that the Lord would confirm to me again today if this were to be the day, today He showed me the colons, which set apart the entire phrase, which describes what will happen that day.
   Ok, some would say, why didn't you include the whole two verses, which read:
 
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

    All I can say is the morning I first wrote this down, I just did it, with no particular reason, except that it made sense to me to write those words, perhaps because those are the words that I knew from memory. And I drew a line between the first and second phrases, then between the second and third phrases. As I did not pay any attention to punctuation, I just wrote it as it made sense to me, and in retrospect, probably because the Holy Spirit led me. It was not until just now as I write this, after praying about thirty minutes ago for further confirmation, that the Lord showed me the whole thing set apart, which is what we are to be, set apart, those who will go in the rapture at that time. Both the dead in Christ, who will be set apart from the other dead, and the living, who are alive in Christ,  who will be set apart from the other living. This just came to now, even as I type.
   There are three colons in that grouping, but nowhere else in the verses, and three is a number for emphasis, remember the two or THREE witnesses, to confirm the truth of a matter? Also 3 is the number of the Trinity, who will all be acting at this event, and they are here in the first part of the verse, BEFORE the colon, outside of the set apart ones.
 
16For the Lord (that is Jesus, the Son) himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, ( could that be the inner voice of the Holy Spirit that only we, the set apart ones, will hear?) and with the trump of God, (that is the Father, God).
 
There are 23 words here in this first part of the verse. 23 represents death, and we, the set apart ones, will be dead to the world from that point on, but those not leaving in the rapture will experience death here in the world. So the rapture will be setting apart those who will not experience physical death, from those who will possibly die martyr's deaths as believers, or physical death as unbelievers in the horrible tribulation to come.
 
The last part of the verses reads:
 
and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
 
which is like a final statement, an "it is finished", an AMEN, so to speak. There are 9 words in this final phrase. Nine represents the fruits of the Spirit, which we, who are raptured, have. It also represents divine completion, just as the phrase itself is saying: We are now complete with the Lord!
 
    This again, just came to me now as I am writing, and I think it bears further confirmation of the event! Much of what I just wrote came to me as I was writing it. It was not thought out before, but as if in answer to my prayer to the Lord, just earlier as I was praying about whether this really is the day. Just as the first day when I asked Him and He showed me the first part.  None of this required any mathematical calculations, it was all there, so simple that even a first grader can understand. It makes sense to me, how about you?
 
 
According to a website list of punctuation rules,
 
 
this is what I read about the colon, which confirms what I believe the Holy Spirit showed me in what I just wrote.
 

Semicolons and Colons

Semicolons and colons were originally used to designate pauses shorter than a period ( like in the twinkling of an eye, perhaps?) and longer than a comma. Now they are used to show certain grammatical relationships with the colon the more emphatic of the two.

   Is that why the original three phrases the Lord showed me the first time are set apart within colons, because  that part of the verses is so emphatic, so dramatic? But the section within the colon has a definite relationship with the parts that precede and follow what is set apart by the colons. There is more.

Colons Separating Independent Clauses

Colons may be used to separate independent clauses that are not separated by a conjunction or any other connecting word or phrase.

    Again, the whole concept of separation! Do you believe the Lord inspired the translators of the Authorised King James Version, who added the punctuation, or is that simply manmade also? I believe it is all divinely inspired, and in such a way that we are given huge clues as to the very day the verse is speaking of!