Noah’s Day, Nov 1, and 1111’s
I have little in the way of credentials for an in depth Bible study project…certainly not where numbers are the issue. So I am asking for any input from those of you who are more adept in this area.
I have long had a strong feeling that concerning the story of Noah, we are missing the boat (pardon the pun) in seeing all the clues that God has left for us. I think that few would doubt that it is significant that God mentions several times the connection between Noah’s age (600 years) and the flood. It also seems significant to me that God made mention of the dates and time span from the first of the year to the beginning of the flood.
(Knowing exactly how old Noah was during the flood would help this study. I wish that I understood better how men’s ages were reckoned in those days. Although it’s commonly stated that Noah was 600 years old when the flood began, the way I read some Bible versions would indicate that Noah turned 600 during the flood year. For example people were considered to be “in their first year” from the moment they were born…thus Noah was “in his 600th year between his 599th and 600th birthdays). Additionally, it seems like I was told once that people’s birthdays were considered to be the first of the year regardless of what day they were born. I couldn’t find any information on this. Can any of you teach me how ages were reckoned in those days?
In any case, as I said, it is significant that God mentions 600 years and the 40 days following (Heshvan 10). Most of us would agree that there are many good reasons to believe that Jesus would return to reign after the earth (as we know it), was 6000 years old.
Now IF there is a correlation between Noah’s 600 years and our 6000 years, then shouldn’t we be able to extrapolate some meaning in the 40 day time span following the first of the flood year? I can’t help but think so.
My first inclination was to attempt to determine how many years have currently taken place since Adam. I know there is great debate on that, but I had to start somewhere. Using the beginning date of 4004 BC and counting solar years, I arrived at 6010 to 6011 years since Adam - depending on where you count the new year (can anyone help me with this?). Anyway, my next inclination was to take the ratio of 40 days to 600 years and apply it to 6000 years. My understanding is that in Noah’s day, the solar years were 360 days. The ratio would then be 40 days divided by 216,000 days (600 years) to give us a result of 0.000185185. Unfortunately, determining the actual solar days that have occurred since Adam to divide against 6000 years became very problematic for me - as it is not clear from history when exactly we changed from 364.81 days to 360 days and back to 365.2425 days – plus I know there have been some other calendar anomalies.
Therefore, I determined to take the ratio of 600 to 6000 (1 to 10) and apply that ratio to the 40 days to equal 400 days. I wanted to divide the 400 days against 6000 years of days. But I still had the same problem….I don’t know how many days there were in that 6000 years. So the best that I could do was take 0.000185185 times 6000 years resulting in 1.111111111. Now the logical thought process is to add 1.11111111 years to 6000 years and you would like to think that would give you a date for “entering the ark” (how exactly “entering the ark” translates to this age is another debate). However, my primitive calculations take that addition to approximately 1997, and obviously that date is past.
However, if one were to remove a beginning zero from 0.000185185, the calculation would take us to 6000 plus 11.1111 years (which to my amazement totaled the years I had estimated for the current year). Now, IF it is fair to count the beginning of the year from Rosh Hashanah (Jewish new year) – and IF we are in the 6011th year, and considering that the .1111 (or 11.11%) of a year equals 40 days - this puts us QUITE SIGNIFICANTLY on November 1st – the day Noah either entered or began entering the ark. As has been noted by many others on five doves recently i.e. Daniel Matson , Ted Porter, & John Tng, there are many other arguments for November 1st of this year being a very significant day in prophecy.
There are a few possible problems with my Noah theory above, however as I cheated on the ratio by deleting a zero. Maybe that’s not a problem…as at times for God a day equaled a thousand years and at other times the ratios differed. I am also counting the earth years by actual solar years. Currently, of course that involves 365.2425 days a year. Therefore is it fair to start a year on Rosh Hashanah (Jewish New Year) which are only 360 day years when adding 11.1111 years to arrive at November 1st? Possibly that is totally legitimate as the “type” for the Day of the Lord was “as in the days of Noah”. I cannot decide. Who can help me with this?
Also (while I haven’t been much impressed by the 1111 “movement”) I had to admit that the multiple #1’s caught my attention. I noted that when I multiplied 40 days by 10 to equal 400 days (matching the 600 years to 6000 years ratio) that equals 1.111111111 years. As well as 40 days to a 360 day year equals a ratio of 0.111111111 year.
Additionally, it is exactly 400 days or 1.111111111 years from October 4th/5th (Rosh Hashanah) of 2005 to November 8th of 2006 (the day the flood began). I offer this because there seemed to be so many good reasons (numerically speaking) why Rosh Hashanah in 2005 was particularly significant. I think I would be a little more impressed that this scenario could apply to this year (Gregorian 2006) if the 400th day would have landed on November 1st instead of the 8th - considering that the 40th day (.111111111 of a year) is landing on November 1st. However, there still seems to be a lot of significance to the correlations.
I also suspect that many will see the added connection of the “1’s” in the date 1/11.
I would love any input on this line of thinking. Even if I am way off on my hypothesis that this is the 6011th year. I still would like any thoughts on the Noah ratio of .000185185 (which equals 1.111111111 of 6000).
Barbie