Hi Ron & doves:http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2011/ronr1117.htmYour post referencing Grant Jeffrey’s work was most compelling, the Holy Spirit witnessed mightily to me the truth of what was presented, not only that but to all your timeline and information which you have presented, which until now though I highly respected your writings, was unable to accept until now!Ron I would like to add a piece to the puzzle if I may, I thought some avid writer may have posted by now but I haven’t seen it so I really think I need to post.So regarding this scripture which though on Hannakuk did not seem at all relevant to Israel’s situation at the time and almost seems as though God just blurted it out, seems kind of out of place for the time, don’t you think? But as has been skilfully pointed it’s about a future war.THE WORD OF THE LORD CAME UNTO HAGGAI IN THE FOUR AND TWENTIETH DAY OF THE NINTH MONTH, SAYING, "I WILL SHAKE THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH; AND I WILL OVERTHROW THE THRONE OF KINGDOMS." (Haggai 2:20--21) "BEHOLD, IT IS DONE SAITH THE LORD GOD; THIS IS THE DAY WHEROF I HAVE SPOKEN." (Ezekiel 39:8)
The “Throne of Kingdoms” can be none other than Satan’s throne now this correlates to Rev 12>Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.Rev 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.But more importantly it’s also about our hapadzo, catching up or rapture, followed by the “Overthrow of the throne of kingdoms” Satan expelled to Earth, God takes the high ground!Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.The chapters 38 & 39 of Ezekiel regarding prophesy against Gog relate to two different time periods. The one that concerns us now is found in 38.Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.Rev 12:13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.Rev 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.Rev 12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.Here is the mouth water: (Definition of Gog: Muslim & atheistic nations)Eze 38:3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:Eze 38:4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:Eze 38:5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:Eze 38:6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.Eze 38:7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.Eze 38:8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.Eze 38:9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.Eze 38:10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:Eze 38:11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,Eze 38:12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.Eze 38:13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?Eze 38:14 Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it?Eze 38:15 And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army:Rev 12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.Here is how the Earth helped the woman (predominantly by great earthquakes):Eze 38:19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;Eze 38:20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.Eze 38:21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother.Eze 38:22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.Just for interest’s sake, Ezk 39 correlates to the future rebellion at the end of the millennium rule. As with Ezk 38 we can ascertain this by the judgements poured upon them:Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.Compare:Eze 39:6 And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD.