Marilyn Agee (18 Nov 2010)
"Paul Wilson (16 Nov 2010): "Does this timeline seem OK?? Please do answer.""


From: Marilyn Agee
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Paul Wilson (16 Nov 2010)
"Does this timeline seem OK?? Please do answer."
Hi:
 
> > I am pretty sure on a Tishri birth as it is well believed that John the Baptist was born on Passover and we know that Jesus' birth was 6 months later (as Elizabeth was 6 months pregnant when Mary be came pregnant)
 
I believe that Jesus was born on Tishri 1. He was conceived on Kislev 24 (Haggai 2:18,19 says, "Consider now from this day and upward, from the four and twentieth day of the ninth month, even from the day that the foundation (Jesus) of the LORD'S temple was laid, consider it. Is the seed (Jesus) yet in the barn? (a saying regarding pregnancy) yea (YES), as yet the vine (Jesus), and the fig tree (Israel), and the pomegranate, and the olive tree (Gentiles), hath not brought forth: from this day will I bless you."
 
I expect the Rapture on Kislev 25, the Festival of Lights. The wise virgins have their lamps lit. It was dark at the Temple on Kislev 24 and bright on Kislev 25 when the lampstand was lighted.
 
I believe Jesus will return as the rain. In Noah's day, it began to rain on Cheshvan 17. The 40th day of that rain will be equal to Kislev 26 this year, because Cheshvan has 30 days. In years when Cheshvan has 29 days, the 40th day of rain would be Kislev 25, the first day of Hanukkah, the Festival of Lights. I'll be happy with either the 25th or the 26th.
 
> > Now it appears he was 33 and a half at death, he celebrated 3 Passovers after baptism (somewhere around 30) and was killed on preparation day of what would have been the fourth and again Passover is 6 mouths from Tishri, so since we know based on his saying he would be in the belly of the earth “3 days and 3 nights” he was killed on a Wednesday and that would place it in 30 AD as only 30, AD 27 AD, and 37 AD have Wednesday prep days. With a 30 AD date we have a 5 BC birth.
 
I believe Jesus was born on Tishri 1 in 5 BC and died on Thursday, Nisan 13, in 30 AD. He was crucified on the preparation of the Passover (Nisan 13), not on Passover (Nisan 14). The Jews went not into the judgment hall that they might keep the Passover, which was still future. The three days and nights in the heart of the earth were Thursday (day), Friday (night then day), Saturday (night then day), and Sunday (night). 
 
I disagree with the late Earnest Martin on the date of Jesus' birth, also on the location of the Temple. He placed it over the Gihon Spring south of the Temple Mount.
 
The water ran by a sealed aquaduct containing a siphon from the spring Ein Eitan near Solomon's Pools to the Temple Mount. I couldn't remember just how to spell the name of the spring, so I searched on Google and found a good article. It places the Temple between the Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque, which I agree with. Tuvia Sagiv figured it out correctly. The back of the Holy of Holies lined up with the wailing wall. The article also gives the information about the aquaduct and has pictures of it I hadn't seen before. I think you will enjoy reading it. I will put one of the pictures on Pro and Con 1579.
 
The Jerusalem Water Aqueduct 12km from the Solomon’s Pools
http://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-jerusalem-temple-mount-threshing-floor-aqueduct.htm

Agape,
Marilyn Agee
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Paul Wilson (16 Nov 2010)
"Does this timeline seem OK?? Please do answer."

I am pretty sure on a Tishri birth as it is well believed that John the Baptist was born on Passover and we know that Jesus' birth was 6 months later (as Elizabeth was 6 months pregnant when Mary be came pregnant) which is tabernacles. We are not told how long they were in Egypt so we can only guess. Now it appears he was 33 and a half at death, he celebrated 3 Passovers after baptism (somewhere around 30) and was killed on preparation day of what would have been the fourth and again Passover is 6 mouths from Tishri, so since we know based on his saying he would be in the belly of the earth “3 days and 3 nights” he was killed on a Wednesday and that would place it in 30 AD as only 30, AD 27 AD, and 37 AD have Wednesday prep days. With a 30 AD date we have a 5 BC birth. Now lately several scholars are believing Herod died in the beginning months of 1 BC as there was a lunar eclipse on Jan 9th that year and they believe the eclipse of 4 BC was not soon enough for the events to have taken place that would have happened after his death without interfering with Passover (http://www.askelm.com/star/star010.htm).  Given this we can see a time line of :
 
Birth-Tishri 15 5 BC, Magi arrive fall-winter 3 BC, Flee to Egypt late 3 BC or early 2 BC, Stay till Herod’s death in 1 BC, Return after his death 1 BC, They go to Jerusalem when he is 12 sometime between Tishri 15 8 AD and Tishri 14 9 AD, He is baptized somewhere around Tishri 26 AD, He is crucified on Nisan 14 30 AD. total 33.5 years: 4.25 in BC and 29.25 in AD
 
On the resurrection 3 days and 3 nights bring us to Saturday night after sundown so at the earliest this is when he rose at the latest on Sunday just prior to sun rise. Now the earthquake on Sunday morning is not said to be because of the resurrection but “for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door,”. Now Jesus could have risen on Saturday night and been in the tomb till the angel rolled it away or he could have risen on Sunday morning as he not only said “3 days and 3 nights” but also “after 3 days he would rise” so that would put it anytime after sundown Saturday.
 
Paul
 
I know some of you place his birth at a different date and/or year this is simply my guess.  I invite you to share your own timeline that we may discuss this respectfully. We can disagree on some things and still be brethren and still be seeking the truth.