Jimmy Lishman (20 Nov 2010)
"Come up here..... followed by my real first numbers."

Hi beloved Doves,

Today after my prayers and word study – I posted a “Time is up” posting on Five Doves.

I then asked the LORD to lead me in this day, as it has been a while since the LORD has used me, I asked please LORD do YOUR will in me – lead me to prophesy this word,

, give me the opportunity to serve you again with passion and to glorify YOUR name.

I came into my office and the first thing I got in my email was the article below titled Come up here…. And within 5 minutes the telephone rang and the lady who leads

Our church prayer group on Saturday mornings said she was feeling sickly and if I wouldn’t mind leading the church prayer group this coming Saturday morning(20 Nov 2010)
and if I could find a message from the LORD for the group (HALLELUJAH – HE LIVES and HE Hears HIS CHILDRENS CRY).

I have been lead to share Daniel 9 with the group as a pastor in the church, 2 weeks ago did a sermon on Daniel 9 and skipped over the 70 weeks prophecy,
saying that it was too hard to understand and it confuses people – a real stab in the heart for one such as me and I know, of any of the Doves – well he will be present at the

Meeting on Saturday and he will get a copy of the piece I have prepared on the 70 weeks.

Feeling elated I got into my car and drove to a meeting (now I have never really been one for the significance of numbers) and stopping at a red light I lifted my eyes up and thanked
the LORD for showing me what HE did this morning and using me in HIS service and again said Please LORD – WHEN….. and as the light turned I glanced at my speedometer – it read 21777 Km now I don’t know but
Goosebumps covered my entire body. – wow I had seen something, a number, really out of the ordinary.


Maranatha Lord JESUS

Love in CHRIST



The Call to “Come Up Here!” –
19 November 2010

Any view of the fourth chapter of the Book of Revelation that doesn’t allow for the triumphant Rapture of the saints is woefully inadequate. This chapter is a grand picture of the true church and the overcoming saints that have been transferred from the lion’s mouth to the King’s throne. The blood-washed saints that were hated by the world will have faced their persecutors for the last time. Giving up the world, they will have gained the grandest seats around the throne of the Father. This chapter is the beginning of the glory that has been promised to the saints since the opening of the Holy Bible. From seats around the throne to the city of the throne, the saints will never suffer shame again. They are His saints and they will take up positions as His elders until they march as His army, reign as Kings, and possess the city of the Bride, New Jerusalem.

The great Jehovah God is seated on His throne in the celestial heavens and is fully prepared for the heavenly court. Over six thousand years have passed since a serpent — possessed by Lucifer — walked into the garden and deceived God’s perfect couple, Adam and Eve. From the venom of those lies in the garden, sin has touched every offspring of Adam. The upheaval of the earth by the Noahic flood left indescribable scars on a sin-cursed earth. There is not one element of the created world unspoiled by the flood of evil, and it is now time for redemption. The earth must be reclaimed.

The celestial city of Heavenly Jerusalem and its inhabitants are the only untouched geography in the cosmos. This future court will be held in its temple. David must have had a slight view of the location of this seven-year judgment session, “Great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised in the city of our God, in the mountain of his holiness. Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth is mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King. God is known in her palaces for a refuge” (Psalm 48:1-3).

The court proceedings that must go forth out of this city demand a Pre-Tribulation Rapture to transfer the saints from their graves or from their lives on earth to fulfill their appointed positions. This earth is the Lord’s and He has appointed it to His saints to posses for eternity. It has been clearly stated that we shall judge this earth, and our removal to this grand event is unquestionably guaranteed. The fight against the Rapture is a last ditch effort from the devil to prevent us from our heavenly task. The proceedings cannot begin until we arrive at our appointed seats before the throne.

“Then as I looked, I saw a door standing open in heaven, and the same voice I had heard before spoke to me like a trumpet blast. The voice said, "Come up here, and I will show you what must happen after this."” (Revelation 4:1).

There is no event on God’s calendar that demands a door opened into heaven from the earth’s advantage, except for the Rapture. This great vision by John incorporates all the fine details that Scripture associates with the saints being caught up to meet the Lord in the air, “1Th 4:16  For the Lord Himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Then we will be with the Lord forever.

So encourage each other with these words.” (I Thessalonians 4:16-17).

Before John sees the throne in heaven, he hears the voice of Jesus Christ “as it were of a trumpet” saying, “Come up here.” The trumpet voice gave details to John to make sure the church understood this further information as “hereafter” or following the letters to the seven churches. Nothing from this point on in Revelation can be a historical event. This was clearly stated in the introduction of chapter one, “Write down what you have seen—both the things that are now happening and the things that will happen.” (Revelation 1:19). All through chapter one, two, and three, the whole vision and scene is the High Priestly appearance of Jesus Christ and His letters to His churches.

But, in chapter four the Apostle John is clearly caught up into the Heavens to view further proceedings that demand his presence. He is going to witness the glorified saints seated in positions of honor and dressed in attire that would be impossible on earth. Everything he sees and writes from this verse on has no connection to the Church Age and its kingdom business, which the Scripture identifies as the spiritual kingdom “"When will the Kingdom of God come?" Jesus replied, "The Kingdom of God can't be detected by visible signs. You won't be able to say, 'Here it is!' or 'It's over there!' For the Kingdom of God is already among you. "  Then He said to His disciples, "The time is coming when you will long to see the day when the Son of Man returns, but you won't see it. People will tell you, 'Look, there is the Son of Man,' or 'Here he is,' but don't go out and follow them.  For as the lightning flashes and lights up the sky from one end to the other, so it will be on the day when the Son of Man comes.(Luke 17:20-24)

And instantly I was in the Spirit, and I saw a throne in heaven and someone sitting on it. The One sitting on the throne was as brilliant as gemstones—like jasper and carnelian. And the glow of an emerald circled His throne like a rainbow.  Twenty-four thrones surrounded Him, and twenty-four elders sat on them. They were all clothed in white and had gold crowns on their heads. (Revelation 4:2-3).

In the Spirit, John looks on the majestic throne of Almighty Jehovah, where our Heavenly Father is seated in His glory. The description given to us is limited by human language inadequate to reach to such heights of splendor. The glory was such that the writer could only compare it with the grandeur of rare jewels. There was a gleam of glory and overwhelming splendor making Him incomparable to earthly beauty. The dazzling colors of a rainbow were seen overshadowing the throne and its occupant. The throne itself was in sight like unto an emerald. No earthly wonder has ever been so described. We will soon be there!


James P Lishman