Harvey Troyer (10 Nov 2010)

November 10, 2010

Dear John Tng and faithful doves,


Is a second Rapture God’s safety net plan for the “foolish virgins” and other unsaved people who miss the Rapture?

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Hebrews 11:35-39 (NIV) 35 Women received back their dead, raised to life again. Others were tortured and refused to be released, so that they might gain a better resurrection. 36 Some faced jeers and flogging, while still others were chained and put in prison. 37 They were stoned; they were sawed in two; they were put to death by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated—38 the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, and in caves and holes in the ground. 39 These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised.

Revelation 20:4-5 (KJV) 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Revelation 20:5-6 (NIV)  5 The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.

[Again for emphasis: Hebrews 11:35b (NIV) Others were tortured and refused to be released, so that they might gain a better resurrection.  So I ask you, do you really want to be part of the “first resurrection”?  And what is Paul talking about when he states in Heb 11:35b Others were tortured and refused to be released, so that they might gain a better resurrection.???  And finally—God forbid, do you really want to be part of the “second resurrection”??? Rev 20: 5 (KJV) 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. Folks, this “second resurrection” is the resurrection of the dammed at the great white throne judgment!!!]

Phil 3:10-21 (NIV)  10 I want to know Christ and the power of his resurrection and the fellowship of sharing in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, 11and so, somehow, to attain to the resurrection from the dead. 12Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been made perfect, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. 13 Brothers, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, 14 I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus. 15 All of us who are mature should take such a view of things. And if on some point you think differently, that too God will make clear to you. 16 Only let us live up to what we have already attained. 17 Join with others in following my example, brothers, and take note of those who live according to the pattern we gave you. 18 For, as I have often told you before and now say again even with tears, many live as enemies of the cross of Christ. 19 Their destiny is destruction, their god is their stomach, and their glory is in their shame. Their mind is on earthly things. 20 But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, 21 who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body.


What did Paul mean when he said in Phil 3:11(NIV) 11 and so, somehow, to attain to the resurrection from the dead. Phil 3:11 (KJV) 11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.

ANSWER: I Thes 4:14-17(KJV) 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

QUESTION:  When will the present period of grace, of The New Covenant (Testament) come to an end?

ANSWER: Zechariah 11:7 (NIV) 7 So I pastured the flock marked for slaughter, particularly the oppressed of the flock. (This includes the Rapture of today’s worldwide persecuted and holy church.)  Then I took two staffs and called one Favor (represents the dispensation of grace) and the other Union, (represents the brotherhood between the Jews (State of Israel today) and the Joes (America which is the Daughter of Babylon) (see—JewsandJoes.com). and I pastured the flock.  Zechariah 11:8-11 (NIV)  8 In one month I got rid of the three shepherds.  The flock detested me, (the foolish virgins left behind) and I grew weary of them 9 and said, “I will not be your shepherd. (The Bridegroom shuts the door immediately after the rapture, to the foolish virgins (left behind) who are knocking to get into heaven’s door (Matt 25:10-12). Let the dying die, and the perishing perish. Let those who are left eat one another’s flesh.” (Remember the 1973 movie “Soylent Green” with Charlton Heston?) 10 Then I took my staff called Favor (grace) and broke it, revoking the covenant I had made with all the nations. (Hello!) 11  It was revoked on that day, and so the afflicted of the flock who were watching me knew it was the word of the LORD. (The Dispensation of Grace is revoked the day of the rapture.)

Dearly beloved, this is only one of the scriptures that tells us that the door of grace is closed the day of the Rapture.  But let’s see where this Chapter is located. WOW! It comes immediately before the well-known classic chapter of the Battle for Jerusalem, Zech 12:1-9.  This is just one of the many proofs for the Pre-tribulation Rapture being directly linked to World War III (the Sudden Destruction)!  Read my post on October 15, 2010!

You say that you want more proof of when the period of grace is over?  The following is dynamite but the real clincher is Rev 14:13.  Why? Read Rev 14:13 13 Then I heard a voice from heaven say, “Write: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.” “Yes,” says the Spirit, “they will rest from their labor, for their deeds will follow them.” In other words, the instant that your head is lopped off, you’re with the LORD on the other side!

Read Rev 12:11-12 (NIV)   11 They overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death. 12 Therefore rejoice, you heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short.”

Also please read Matt 10:32-34 (KJV) 32 “Whoever acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven. 34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.  This sounds like beheading to me!  Don’t take the mark of the beast!  You must stand for JESUS in that hour!

Revelation 14:6-13 (NIV)

The Three Angels

6 Then I saw another angel flying in midair, and he had the eternal gospel to proclaim to those who live on the earth—to every nation, tribe, language and people. 7 He said in a loud voice, “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come. Worship him who made the heavens, the earth, the sea and the springs of water.”
8 A second angel followed and said, “Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great, which made all the nations drink the maddening wine of her adulteries.”
9 A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand,10 he, too, will drink of the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb.
11 And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name.”
12 This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God’s commandments and remain faithful to Jesus. 13 Then I heard a voice from heaven say, “Write: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.” “Yes,” says the Spirit, “they will rest from their labor, for their deeds will follow them.”

So...,please click on the PDF LINK below to read the rest of the story!!!  Beheading, God’s Final Safety Net After the Rapture.

Harvey Troyer, a servant of the LORD Jesus Christ


Emmaus Road Ministries

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