Dear John and all Doves,
      As I have tried to fall asleep I keep on thinking of the story about the family Noah in the book of Genesis. There are 8 members of one family who are saved. No one in the family is excluded. There are 8 lamps for Hanukkah and they are lit from the servant lamp, which is number 9. The practice  of many is to light one per night so that the 9 are ablaze on the final night. The 8 of the family Noah can be seen as 4 married couples.  Virginia, was it a detail of Chris that he saw the number 4 added 4 times? That would equal 12. If we start Hanukkah at 12-4-2007 we end it the night of 12-11-2007. Israel would already be into 12-12-2007. As mentioned in Part 1, a menorah of  7 or 9 lamps usually has the shape of an ark. The base would be like the scaffolding below it. The dates of 12-4 to 11 or 12 are starting to look very interesting.

With Love and Shalom,
Jean Stepnoski