1 Cor 10:31 (2 Nov 2006)
"the timing of the rapture & the ministry of the 2 witnesses"


These are just my notes about the 2 witnesses & why I think they will not be here until the GREAT trib.  Now, you may wonder ~ well, why is this even important?   There have always been varying schools of thought as to when they would be here.  Seems watchers, overall, tend to think they will be here during the first half of the tribulation (so did I for the longest!)
 
But just over the past week, I got really, really interested in digging in deeper to find out for sure one way or another.  Asking the Holy Spirit to help me understand, I got into Revelation and tried to read clearly and grasp every verse.
 
And while I'm not interested in debating this necessarily ~ cause the bold faced truth is, they ARE going to be here for half the period of Jacob's trouble, regardless of which half, simply because the Bible says they are!!    That we can all agree on.
 
So why do I want to share this?  Well, if the 2 witnesses do not show up till the GREAT tribulation, then this may offer yet more reason as to why we may possibly be gathered together yet this very year!  And while no one can know with absolute certainty, it is possible it may be this very month.
 
 

 

Overall, I believe that most of Revelation is written in chronological order & that being the case, was curious why the ministry of the 2 witnesses was not even mentioned till chapter 11.  

 

Now, it makes more sense to me.

 

Okay, what first struck me is that the world is going to SEE their resurrection and rapture!!   Unlike OUR rapture – when only born again Christians (IMO) will HEAR the trumpet & the order to “Come up here!”  The rest of the world may possibly hear “thunder” at the time of the rapture, but I do not believe they’ll hear the trumpet.  What do you think?

 

But for the 2 witnesses it’s going to be different – the world will SEE them ascend on a cloud going into heaven.

 

So – I just kept thinking – well, if the world SEES them go into heaven [Rev. 11:12]  ~ then wouldn’t this cause ppl to want to become Christians?   Wouldn't that stir up a worldwide revival when that happens?  They will surely KNOW the 2 witnesses have been called Home to heaven.

 

But no mention of a ton more ppl becoming Christians then”.  Maybe, possibly because the world will be on a definite side of the fence OR THE OTHER **by then**!!   As we know, most will CHOOSE to worship the dragon & the beast even by mid-tribulation period, when the AntiChrist is resurrected.  So, it could be the world as a whole will already be reprobate during the ministry of the 2 witnesses.

 

The Christians and converted Jews who are hiding out will be encouraged to know the 2 witnesses are on the scene, scripted exactly according to Scripture.

 

So then I got to thinking – okay, maybe there is no revival of people converting to the Lord because  the 2 witnesses are not raptured till nearly right at the end of the trib.  {which would place them here, of course, during the last half of the tribulation.... a.k.a. the GREAT tribulation}

 

Now, granted, after the resurrection & rapture of the 2 witnesses, the 2nd woe is past & the 3rd woe is coming quickly – seems like a whole lot more stuff has to happen, the world still has the bowl judgments to go. 

 

But, but, BUT…….   It’s IMO that the bowl judgments will all be placed during an approximate span of the last couple of weeks of the tribulation.  Reason I think this:   once ALL the earth’s water is turned to blood  [Rev. 16:4] and with no fresh water to drink, then ppl will be able to sustain life only for a couple weeks at most!!   (think:  Terri Schaivo!)

 

The bowl judgments, the worst of the worst, will come in QUICK succession at the tail end of the trib – just like a trip-hammer.  So by the time the 2 witnesses are killed, the tribulation may be just a few weeks (at the most!)  from completely wrapping up.

 

Now, Rev. 11:10 speaks of people the world over CELEBRATING their “sick joy” of the death of the 2 witnesses – they "make merry" and even send gifts to each other.

 

10 And those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them, make merry, and send gifts to one another,

 

GENERALLY, overall, there is “one time of the year” when people worldwide “make merry” ~  and you all KNOW when it is!!   While I'm not saying this HAS to happen at/during the season of Christmas, but that it's certainly a possibility.

 

Carry on the tradition, you know, without the actual, original meaning.  I mean, afterall, isn't that pretty much what the [secular version] of "Christmas" is all about now?    We recently were teasing our lil' neighbor girls about Christmas being cancelled this year.  My husband asked them, "what would HAPPEN if Christmas gets cancelled?"   Without missing a beat, the lil' 5 year old said, "we wouldn't get any toys."

 

Hmmm ~ no toys, huh?   What about the mention of Jesus' birth celebration -- supposedly the original meaning of Christmas.   Well, we can overlook the way a 5 year old child may think.  But overall, isn't this the GENERAL CONCENSUS of the world as a whole at Christmas?  That it's all about "gifts" [and then returning them on Dec. 26th] ~ but that's what the holiday is ALL about?

 

You see what I’m getting at?   Where I’m going with this?

 

If the 2 witnesses are here during the GREAT tribulation, and if they are killed & the world celebrates & makes merry & gives gifts to each other some time CLOSE to the typical Christmas observance, and if that is destined to happen some 7 years from this Christmas, then that means we will be going up this very year.

Then if our redemption is to be this year, it can yet be ANY TIME NOW ~  any day in Nov; or even in Dec.  (actually clear to the end of January for the timing of this to be accurate – if it is around Christmas time when the world celebrates the death of the 2 witnesses, although personally I believe we'll be gone before Januaray.  Also remember the AntiChrist may need a little time in order to set us his kingdom before the trib officially ignites, ~ thus, more reason why we would likely be gone this month or next.) 

 

An additional note, it would almost seem an "odd" time for the rapture -- what, no Jewish feast date or anything?  *smile*   But should it happen this year, would it make sense for it to happen BEFORE "winter", while we are still in the autumn equinox?   

 

That way -- "the summer has ended and we are not saved" Scripture in Jeremiah would make a lot of sense!

And the basket of [almost overripe, Amplified Bible says] summer fruit still sitting on the table ~ Amos 8 would make a lot of sense, too.

 

So I join you in saying I'm all for it happening this month!   [hoping the Lord is all for it happening this month, too!   :)

 

Possible scenario:

 

We go up.

Peace treaty is signed.

Time of Jacob’s trouble begins

mid-trib AC is killed

2 witnesses show up

AC recovers ~ world awes over that & ignores & despises the prophecies of the 2 “old guys”  standing in Jerusalem in SACKCLOTH…..

 

Hahha – world has good laugh over it for the first several days or so.....  then it starts to get old.  The 2 old guys are giving the Antichrist headaches & the liberal media is talking about what a pain in the behind they are.   Everyone gets tired of hearing about them.

So would-be "heroes" set out to try to wipe them out -- and instead are blazed to death by fire coming out of the 2 witnesses mouths!   [Rev. 11:5]

 

The world gets madder than hornets over all the plaques the 2 guys bring upon them!

 

Soooo…. Naturally they REJOICE when the 2 old buzzards are finally killed off –  quite possibly right before Christmas time, 2013  

 

Anyway, here’s more info about the 2 witnesses being present during the 2nd half of the trib:

 

http://www.parentalguide.com/Documents/Bible_Prophecy/Two_witnesses.htm

this one (above) talks about their ministry of being able to turn water to blood & shut off the rain from heaven & how that is all mentioned as plaques during the Great Trib anyway – which, they mean, it all just seems to go hand in hand that the 2 witnesses will be here during the Great Trib.

 

 

AND ~  here’s a site I just came across a few days ago (and LOVE it!!)

 

http://www.transformedlife.com/revelation10.htm

 

I do not agree with his assessment however, that the great city where the 2 witnesses will be killed may be Rome – I think it will be definitely be Jerusalem.  

Anyway, don’t know if I’m doing a very good job in explaining why I think the 2 witnesses will be here during the GREAT trib, but just from what I’ve been looking at, now I’m sure of it.

 

Also – in Rev. 11: 7 When they finish their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them, and kill them.

 

Notice it is not the AC or even the FP who kills them – it is satan himself. 

 

Ready to go Home & still sensing it could be just any day.

 

While the rest of the world snoozes on – they are actually still quite busy in the ME talking/negotiating for ME PEACE!!!  http://www.thinkspain.com/news-spain/12115

 

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/foreignaffairs/story/0,,1936832,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=11 

 

 

 Maranatha!   The people who love this world can HAVE it!!  We have SPLENDOR to look forward to!!   And a perfect Lord to dine with!   See you there?

 

 

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