TJ (21 Nov 2005)
"ALL SAINTS NOT JUST JEWS"


 
 These "Saints" from Revelation and Daniel are most definately the Church, and are not what you call the "Tribulation saints."   They are not "Jewish saints", or Daniel's people, but all Saints of Jesus Christ, including you and me who are present during the tribulation.   Those who are "wise and understand" are those Christians who do not worship the beast as well as others who become saved during the tribulation.   The church is here during the antichrists persecution during the tribulation. Here is proof below that the saints from Revelation are christians and not just Jewish people.
 
 
Rev 12:: And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him
 
I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now is come the salvation, the power, and the Kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Messiah; for the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down, who accuses them before our God day and night.
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
 
The accuser of our Brothers who accuses us day and night is satan.  The statement brothers or bretheren applies to Christians, who overcome the devil by the testimony of Jesus Christ even to the point of death. The statement our brothers should tell you right off the bat that it is christians in reference here and not unsaved individuals who become saved during the tribulation.  They are allready Christians at the time he is thrown to the earth.
 
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 
 
These are the saints that the little horn is given power over. The accuser of our brothers (Christians) is the little horn.
 
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
 
Those that have faith in Jesus pertain to any Christian and not soley just Jews.
 
Rev 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, "See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy."
 
John falls to the angels feet to worship him and he says Worship GOD, For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy."  
 
Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
 
The antichrist is given 1,260 days of power over the Saints of the most high.  The full 1,260 days ------ over the Saints. This tells you that the saints are allready present at the time the antichrist comes to power, and not that they become christians during the tribulation, Allthough many will be brought to Christ during this time and become saints. 
 
1 Th 3:4-5 For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation ; even as it came to pass, and ye know.  For this cause, when I could no longer forbear, I sent to know your faith, lest by some means the tempter have tempted you, and our labour be in vain.

 
2 Th 1:3-5 We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is meet, because that your faith groweth exceedingly, and the charity of every one of you all toward each other aboundeth; So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your PATIENCE and FAITH in all your persecutions and TRIBULATIONS that ye endure:  Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer: