Hi:
> > I respectfully
disagree with Marilyn Agee on Noah and Lot representing 2 different raptures.
I believe that there
are two Days of the Son of Man, the Pre-Trib Rapture, as the days of Noah, and
the Pre-Wrath Rapture, as the days of Lot. They did not take place simultaneously.
One happened some time before the other. If I remember right, Abraham
was born two years before Noah died. At that time, Lot had not yet been born.
Enoch represents the
first Rapture. Elijah represents the second. Events in the life of Enoch and
Elijah were different, as were the days of Noah and the days of Lot. Enoch
was taken up when things were peaceful. Elijah had Jezebel trying to have
him killed. He had tribulation. He had to flee for 40 days and hide in a cave.
He was fed by angels and ravens. This suggests the flight of the Messianic
Jews to Petra, where they will be fed for 1260 days, the Great Tribulation.
(1) Type of the Pre-Trib
Rapture: Gen. 5:24 says, "Enoch walked with God: and he was
not; for GOD TOOK HIM."
(2) Type
of the Pre-Wrath Rapture: 2Ki 2:11 And it came to pass, as they
still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of
FIRE, and horses of FIRE,
and parted them both asunder; and ELIJAH WENT
UP BY A WHIRLWIND into heaven."
(1) The day that
the Lord shut Noah into the Ark ended with a torrential rain
of water. The coming down of water is similar to the coming down of the
Spirit of Christ (Rom. 8:9). Like Enoch, God will take up the Bride saints.
(2) The day that the
angels brought Lot out of Sodom ended with a torrential rain of fire
and brimstone. Like Elijah, the Tribulation saints will be caught up - saved
so as by fire.
In Luke 17:22-24. Jesus
said, "The DAYS (plural, [1]
Pre-Trib Rapture, as the days of Noah, [2] Pre-Wrath Rapture, as the
days of Lot) will come, when ye shall desire to see ONE
OF THE DAYS OF THE SON OF
MAN (i.e., the 1st Rapture), and
ye shall not see it. And they shall say to you, See here; or,
see there: go not after them, nor follow them (i.e., during
the Tribulation, Mt 24:26). For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the
one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven;
so ! shall also the Son of man be in HIS DAY"
(the Day of the Lord, first day of the Millennium, time of the Pre-Wrath Rapture).
In Mt 24:30,31, Jesus
said of the Day of the Lord, "then (tote, at the same time) shall appear
THE SIGN OF THE SON OF MAN IN HEAVEN:
and then (tote, at the same time) shall all the tribes of the earth mourn,
and THEY SHALL SEE THE SON OF MAN
coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send
his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together
his elect from the four winds, from one end of HEAVEN
to the other." These gathered from one end of Heaven to the
other are those that were taken to Heaven in the Pre-Trib Rapture.
Mark 13:24-27 says, "But
in those days, AFTER THAT TRIBULATION,
the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light (i.e., 6th
seal, Rev. 6:12), And the stars of heaven shall fall (Rev. 6:13), and the
powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. And then (tote, at the same time,
i.e., on the Day of the Lord) shall they see the Son of man coming in
the clouds (i.e., it's the Sign of the Son of Man) with great power and
glory. And then (tote, at the same time) shall he send his angels, and
SHALL GATHER TOGETHER HIS ELECT
from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the EARTH
(i.e., the Pre-Wrath Rapture) to the uttermost part
of HEAVEN (i.e., those caught up previously in the Pre-Trib Rapture). The Tribulation
saints will be caught up when "the great day of his wrath is come" (Rev. 6:17).
Before the asteroids
of Rev. 8:8,10 impact Earth at noon (Zeph. 2:3-5) on the Day of
the Lord, all saints are gathered to the General Assembly in Heaven. Heb
12:22-24 says, "But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the
city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company
of angels, TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY
and church of the firstborn, which are written IN
HEAVEN, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of
just men made perfect (i.e., made immortal), And to Jesus the mediator of
the new covenant."
> > Marilyn made
the point that there was 'iniquity' in the days of Lot. But it was the same
in the days of Noah...iniquity abounded.
You're right. Sins between
mankind and angels are mentioned both times, in the days of
Noah and in the days of Lot.
Gen 6:4,5 says of the
days of Noah, "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also
after that, when the sons of God (i.e., fallen angels - each angel individually
created by God) came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children
to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of
renown. And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth,
and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was
only evil continually."
Gen 19:1,4,5 says of
the days of Lot, "there came two angels to Sodom at even...But before they
lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the
house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: And they
called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men (i.e., the two
male angels) which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us,
that we may know them."
Job
1:6 calls angels "the sons of God, because they were individually
created by God. It says, "Now there was a day when the sons of God came to
present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them."
> > And notice
the word in verse 30 about "the day" singular that the Son of man is revealed.
The Sign of the Son
of Man is only seen at the Pre-Wrath Rapture. That is why it is singular.
Verse 32 says, "Remember Lot's wife." Noah's wife made it. Lot's wife did
not. They typify two different Days of the Son of Man.
Noah is not present
during the Tribulation. Elijah is present during the Tribulation.
Rev 11:1-12 says, "there
was given me (John) a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying,
RISE
(i.e., at the Pre-Trib Rapture), and measure the temple of God, and the altar,
and them that worship therein (the Bride saints are the temple of the Holy
Spirit and can be numbered). But
the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it
is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot
forty and two months (the first half of
the Tribulation). And I will give power
unto my two witnesses (Moses and Elijah), and they shall prophesy a thousand
two hundred and threescore days (the first
half of the Tribulation), clothed in sackcloth. These are the two olive trees,
and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth (Zech. 4:14,
Mt. 17:! 2,3). And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their
mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must
in this manner be killed. These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not
in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to
blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will. And
when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out
of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them,
and kill them. And their dead bodies shall lie
in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called SODOM
(i.e., as in the days of Lot) and Egypt, where also our
Lord was crucified. And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations
shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their
dead bodies to be put in graves. And they that dwell upon ! the earth shall
rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gift s one to another; because
these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. And after three
days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood
upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. And they heard
a great voice from heaven saying unto them, COME
UP HITHER
(as in the Pre-Wrath Rapture). And THEY ASCENDED
UP TO HEAVEN in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them."
Agape, Marilyn Agee