John M Johnson (2 Nov 2005)
"RE: Are There Apostles Today"


It is interesting to note that there were other apostles mentioned in the scriptures beside the 12 (Matthias who was numbered with the 11 apostles) and Paul. That makes 13.
 
Then in Acts 14:14 we read:

14 But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard this, they tore their clothes and ran in among the multitude...
 
No where does it say that Barnabas saw Jesus as Paul speaks of, yet he is called an apostle. Hmmm...14 apostles.
 
Then how about Andronicus and Junia? Paul writes in Romans  16:7:

7 Greet Andronicus and Junia, my countrymen and my fellow prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.
 
Please notice the phrase "note among the apostles". The word note is episemos which means: having a mark on it, marked, stamped, coined, note, illustrious.
 
The word among is en which means: in, by, with etc.
 
One version renders the verse in Romans as:
7Greetings to Andronicus and Junia, my relatives, who were in prison with me. They are very important apostles. They were believers in Christ before I was
 
Yet another renders it:
7Greet Andronicus and Junia, who are Jewish by birth like me. They are prisoners like me and are prominent among the apostles. They also were Christians before I was.
 
16 apostles...hmm.
 
So, the traditional idea of what apostles are is shown to be just that "tradition" and we know that the traditions of man make the word of God ineffective. Tradition has blinded us to what apostles are and to their tenure.
 
If you take a look at the book of Ephesians where it speaks of apostles, prophets, evangelist, pastors and teachers, it says that they are gifts given to the church...hmm.
 
Has the church expired? No.
 
Has the church all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ? No.
 
Has the church become fully equipped? No.
 
Well until that happens there will be apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers...   

Eph 4:11-13
11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers,
12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ,
13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ;
 
I don't see it having happened yet...so TILL it does those gifts are still given to men for the church.
 
Now Paul wrote the letter to the Ephesians during the end of his ministry, yet Paul by the Holy Spirit specifically says that apostles are among those given to help equip the church. Was the Holy Spirit "mistaken"?
 
Seeing it was written towards the end of his ministry thus taking place after the end of the book of Acts where supposedly the end of the apostles ministry takes place, why then does Paul speak of it in Ephesians? Simply because the church still needs the apostle.
 
Can the hand say to the eye I have no need of you? No.
 
Also Paul write in the book of 1 Corinthians 12:28:
 
And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues.
 
Again God has appointed in the church...where does it say these things ended? It doesn't. So, we have to take the clear verses that say that the apostle has been set in the church with not so clear verses in order to understand the not so clear ones. True?
 
Yet, how many times does God have to say something for it to be true? It is a fact that there are more verses saying that there are apostles in God's church then there are verses that say one must be born again. Does that make the one more true than the other?
 
Ps 62:11
11 God has spoken once, twice I have heard this: that power belongs to God.
 
The misunderstanding of the ministry of the apostle in the evangelical community and the charismatic community has led to the demise those who have such a calling on their lives to be vilified and at best ignored.
 
This is not pleasing to the Father and it is not scriptural. Thus the church is not as effective, because it is not as equipped as it could be seeing it ignores one of the gifts given to men to help equip the body...till all come into the unity of the faith.
 
A gift from God is a terrible thing to waste...or ignore...or vilify.
 
John Johnson