Ray (30 May 2021)
"Luke 17 "when shall the kingdom of God come""

Hi John and Doves,

Luke 17:22-37 is triggered by a question from Pharisee "When shall the kingdom of God come?" We know the kingdom of God comes when Jesus returns to earth, and establishes the millennial reign on earth. This is the kingdom of God.

Jesus answers them " The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you."

Jesus says the kingdom of God is not there yet, that they can see with their naked eyes. But if they believe in him, then when the kingdom of God arrives, they can partake in this kingdom. This is what "the kingdom of God is within you" means. How do they partake in this millennial kingdom? They are the dead in Christ who receive their resurrected body in the day of rapture, stay in heaven for 7 years, and return to earth with Jesus after the tribulation is over.

22 And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it.

Jesus went on to talk about his departure from this earth after he fulfills what God the Father sent him to this earth for. The disciples will desire to see him again. They will miss him.

23 And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them.24 For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day

Jesus also foretells before his return to earth to establish the kingdom of God,  there will be many false Christ arises and mimic him after his ascension to heaven. They will fake Jesus' appearance and deceive the disciples that Jesus has returned to earth. They will say "Look, Jesus is here, and there". He warns the disciples not to follow these false Christs. It is because his return shall be like a lightning from one part to another part under heaven, that the whole world shall see his physical return to earth.

25 But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation.

But for all these to happen, first the Son of man has to be rejected by the generation in 32 AD. Jesus needs to fulfill crucifixion and resurrection before the kingdom of God can arrive. At this time, Jesus has finished his answer to Pharisee regarding the issue of kingdom of God, that is, when shall it arrive ( like a lightning from the sky, his return to earth) , how shall it be accomplished (by his death, Son of man is rejected by the generation in 32 AD).

He then went on to disclose a mystery from verse 26 to 37. This mystery is the pre-tribulation rapture. The reason he talks about pre-tribulation rapture because this is the first event which shall trigger the arrival of kingdom of God. Below are the posts I have made re verse 26-37.


Hi John and Doves

Luke 17:30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. 

 This is a rapture verse. Son of man is Jesus. He shall be revealed to the world at the time of rapture. Many do not know his name now. But when they see millions and millions of Christians disappear from this earth, they shall acknowledge it is the work of Jesus. This is how Son of man is revealed to the world in the day of rapture.

Prior to this message, Jesus has this to say concerning the conditions on earth prior to his revealing  in the day of  rapture.

Luke 17:26  And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. 27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. 28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; 29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

People do eat, drink, marry, and giving in marriage. They live as business as usual, as much as the world events don't frighten them at all.  This is a pre-tribulation norm. This is today. But things and events shall change quickly after the Son of man is revealed. The left behind shall face many horrific scene and judgment.


Hi John and Doves,

Luke 17:31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back. 32 Remember Lot's wife. 33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.

"Remember Lot's wife". Jesus compares the event rapture to Lot's wife when she looked back and instantly she was changed into a lime stone. When the trumpet blows, we simply don't have much time to think and we shouldn't look back like Lot's wife, and care for our belongings on this earth, but to follow the trumpet call and Jesus' calling into the sky. This is exactly what Jesus meant in these verses.

And what shall happen in that day?

34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. 35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.


Hi John and Doves,

Luke 17:37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

Many bible prophecy students compare this verse to Matthew 24:28.

Matthew 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

They should not because "the body" in Luke 17:37 is Greek word soma which means live body, flesh. while "carcase" in Matthew 24:28 is Greek word ptoma which means dead body, corpse.

The disciples ask Jesus where will this spectacular event happen.

In Luke 17:37, Jesus says these live body shall be gathered together like the eagles are gathered in the sky. Jesus speaks of the rapture in this verse.

Contrary to the scene in Luke 17:37, Matthew 24:28 depicts a scene of the aftermath of a global warfare where carcases are everywhere, with eagles and bird of prey circling above them. This is how horrible the earth is prior to Jesus returning to earth.


Hi John and Doves,

Now we can see all the messages Jesus has given from verse 22 to 37 is concerning the kingdom of God. How it is accomplished ( by his death and the rejection by the generation in 32 AD), when it will arrive (like a lightning from one part of heaven to the other part), and what is the first event (rapture, Son of man is revealed to the world) that triggers the arrival of this kingdom of God.