Bob Anderson (18 May 2014)
"Pastor Bob"


Dear Pastor Bob,

Thank you for your posts, and please, keep posting. I wish you were still preaching and in my area (RI). I would be your most faithful congregant. 

Daniel 9:27 has always been explicitly clear to me. As you point out, the rule of antecedents prohibits alternative interpretations. The context is clear. Here is a link to Tom McElmurry, another retired pastor, who, while being a believer in the rapture, manages to support the alternative interpretation. His main argument seems to be that prior to Darby, speaking of people whose character has been assassinated,  in the early 1800's, no Christian "scholar or authority" supported the antecedent interpretation. He also believes that the AC will emerge from what was greater Syria in times past. I have the greatest respect for Tom along with some profound disagreements. Anyway, you may find his material interesting.

http://www.tribulationperiod.com/

Over the years I've become rather skilled at uncovering SDA speakers, documents and websites. (THEY NEVER, EVER IDENTIFY THEMSELVES UP FRONT AS SDA!) I've attended two of their roadshow prophecy seminars and performed the necessary historical research to refute their case. In all instances, their speakers are highly trained, masters of their subject, polished, interesting, personable and likable. They sound good, and they can set the weak faithed, particularly those of limited Biblical and historical knowledge, to tottering. Here are the red flags.

1. They ask, "Has the Sabbath ever been cancelled?"
2. They obsess on 1798 -- Napoleon throws the Pope out of the Vatican.
3. They define history by emphasis on Rome's defeats by the Goths, Visigoths and other marauders too numerous to mention.
4. They hold to the alternative interpretation of Daniel 9:27
5. They obsess over the Catholic Church ... changing times and seasons, etc. and charge Protestantism with inheriting or carrying on much of Catholicism's transgressions.
6. They conclude by denying the rapture.
7. They then typically go into a health food rant.

I like to summarize their position with: Everything that's going to happen has happened except the second half of the 70th. week.

There's much more, but if the presentation emphasizes any of the previous seven, it's of the SDA. Typically I have to perform a two or three level Google drill down to make a positive ID.

Perchance have you read Bullinger's Commentary on Revelationhttp://www.ccel.org/ccel/bullinger/apocalypse.toc.html

He describes the book as a Jewish document addressed to the Jews of the end times. The Church, the body of Christ, has no part nor presence in it. The "churches" (ecclesia - called out assembly) are in fact Messianic synagogues in the end times. Parenthetically, John and all the apostles expected Christ's imminent return. They had no idea that God would stop the clock for the dispensation of grace. So, these ecclesia were existing synagogues in John's day and may well be functioning even now, although I've been unable to verify this.

The Bride of Christ is not Christ's Church. The Church is the body of Christ. The Bride is the assembly of righteous Jews from Abraham forward, the Jews who believed God.

And, there is much, much more, all of which raises the hackles of conventional Christianity. Bullinger is described as an ultra-dispensationalist by Ironsides, who wrote a fierce rebuttal around 1950.

And, have you ever run across Les Feldick? http://lesfeldick.org/
Les, a layman, a consummate Biblical scholar and English grammarian, has independently reached Bullinger's position. Les is a bit more ambitious, however, tackling the whole Bible. I'm now on page 6000 of an estimated 10,000 pages of transcripts from his lectures and TV shows spanning about 13 years.

According to Les, the Gospels are really an extension of the OT. Christ's ministry was to Israel (according to Scripture, had to be). Paul and only Paul was chosen as the Apostle to the Gentiles. Christian doctrine should derive only from Pail's epistles. The doctrine of salvation by grace through faith is:

I Corinthians 15:
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

As Les puts it, "faith plus nothing". Additions ... repentance, baptism, sacraments, works, etc. count as nothing for salvation.

Paul, alone among the Apostles, spent three years with the risen ascended, glorified Lord Jesus Christ, and Paul alone received the gospel of salvation by grace through faith. The gospel that Christ preached during his ministry and which the eleven Apostles subsequently preached was the Kingdom Gospel. They're two different things and cannot be mixed.

That's my synopsis of 6000 pages. Actually, the level of detail, the Scripture backed with Scripture, in Les' transcripts is astounding. No one will ever accuse him of taking lone verses out of context.

I'd know of none of this except for 5DOVES, which has provided me with some absolutely astonishing leads to people and works of whose existence I wasn't aware. I'm profoundly grateful for John Tng's labor and dedication. And, I'm always searching for people to partner with in my voyages through documents to huge to read. They wrote faster with a quill than I can read.

Well, this turned out to be a bit longer than I intended. I really meant to write a simple "Thank you" for your posts.

Maranatha,

Bob Anderson
randerson3@cox.net