Hello, John and Doves,
I take the clause, "nobody knows the hour
or day," to mean two distinct and separate things.
First, the first century Church had no idea
how long this parenthesis called the Church Age would last.
Secondly, there seems to be a passage
overlooked by many today.
the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the
second month, the seventeenth day of the month, on
that day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the
windows of heaven were opened."
Since sophisticated computers had not been
invented by the mid-first century, it is a pretty good bet that no one
then could possibly have figured out that Iyyar 17, 5771 would be May
Yet, Jesus gave us tantalizing clues
to this date:
"And as it was in the days of Noah,
so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man:
"They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were
given in marriage, until
the day that Noah entered the ark,
and the flood came and destroyed them all.
"Likewise as it was
also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they
they sold, they planted, they built;
"but on the day that
Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone
from heaven and destroyed [them] all." Luke 17:26-29
Here is a clue from the book of Psalms:
"Upon the wicked He will rain coals; Fire and brimstone
and a burning wind [Shall be] the portion of their cup." Psalm
No one can decide between one day and an
adjacent one, because Jesus said,
therefore, for you do not know when the master of the house is
coming--in the evening, at midnight, at the crowing of the rooster, or
in the morning...." Matthew 13:35
Since these times of the
day refer to Jerusalem time [UTC+2], Christians around the world
cannot know the day nor the hour [Matthew 13:32] of the Rapture of the
Bride of Christ.
The Second Coming, however is a different
story. Those clues are in Daniel and Revelation.
We, as the Church, have entered into
Daniel's 70th week:
the time [has come] for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if
[it begins] with us first, what will [be] the
end of those who do not obey the gospel
of God?" 1 Peter 4:17
Jesus said to the Church at Philadelphia,
"Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also
will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole
world, to test those who dwell on the
The following verse marries 1 Peter
4:17 to Revelation 3:10:
"The LORD tests the righteous,
But the wicked and the one who loves violence His soul hates."
Psalm 11:5 [May, 2011?]
Baruch HaShem Adonai,
"Jennie ( 9 may ) nobody
knows the HOUR or DAY...."
You asked a question about what Jesus meant , when
He said in
MT 24: 36.
It is written that Jesus said ... nobody knows
the Hour or the Day except the Father in heaven...
Here is my opinion, dear friend in Yeshua.
Lot of people want to predict the time of His
visitation. It looks like everybody misses the point , here.
My opinion is that I must go and seek in
the Jewish practices , precepts, feasts ,customs , etc....
In the Jewish way of celebrating the Feast of
TRUMPETS ; the moon is to be watched for.
The Feast of Trumpets is the only GOD's
Holy Feast starting with a NEW
MOON. All the others are to be calculated.
So.... to make sure that they do not
miss the Feast debute , They watch the
moon if it's FULL from Jerusalem. And then by looking at
it , it is a little hard to tell if this
is I T or ....
So to make sure the Jewish people don't make a
mis-calculation they also celebrate the second day of
So the Feast of Trumpets is declared at
the first day of Tishri and also
on the second so to make sure.
Nobody SEEMS to know the exact
hour or day of the R E A L
beginning of the first day of Tishri.
Could it be on that special day
FEAST , that the Messiah returns
? or for us to be Raptured ? just a
Rev 11: 15 The
7 th trumpet sounded.... etc...
Something will happen in heaven and it will be
manifested on the 7 th trumpet. Could it
be on ( A
) Feast of Trumpet ?
The Feast of Trumpets is not mentioned in
the N.T..... Why ?
My answer is that : not Only this feast
speaks about the RETURN of Jesus but
the WHOLE N.T. speaks about His soon return to earth
beginning at A
feast of Trumpet.
To KNOW or NOT to KNOW is
it important ? A Christian 's question might be = When He
comes... will I be ready ?
I surely hope that my opinion doesn't affect ( hurt
) nobody. I am sorry if it does. I am human
like everybody else and I dearly believe in Our Saviour.
Let's all watch for the signs that Our Father
will surely show us. Let us keep our eyes fixed on HIM , who will
In Yeshua 's holy NAME