Marilyn Agee (10 May 2011)
"Craig Opal (9 May 2011) "The Imminent 6th Seal Rapture?""

From: Marilyn Agee
Re: Craig Opal (9 May 2011)
"The Imminent 6th Seal Rapture?"
> > If we want to be even more perfect and literal on the Rapture, we need to come to the realization that we are living in between the 5th and 6th seals already and we would find it is still a pre-tribulation Rapture, but it's not where most pre-tribbers think it's going to happen, which many say is before the 1st seal.  Just study the 5th seal alone and you will see it can't be a future event, instead it's long since been broken along with the other four. 
I can't see how we could possibly be living in between the 5th and 6th seals now. At this point in time, no seals have been broken. Jesus hasn't even been given the 7-sealed Title Deed of the Earth.
Rev 17:14 takes place right after the Rapture has taken place. Of Jesus, it says, "he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that ARE WITH HIM are CALLED, and CHOSEN, and FAITHFUL." They are the Philadelphian saints.
Mt 22:14 says, "many are called, but few are chosen." The faithful Philadelphians are chosen. 
At the time of this First-Trump Rapture of I Thess 4:16,17, which is before the Last-Trump Rapture of I Cor 15:51-54, Rev 17:12 says, "And the ten horns you saw are ten kings who have NOT YET received a kingdom".
At the present time, Earth has been divided into 10 regions, but the ten kings that will rule over these regions have not yet been elected. We are now approaching the time of the first Rapture. After we are gone, the 10 kings will be elected.
The First-Trump Rapture takes place in Rev 4:1. Heaven's door opens and the miraculous Trump of God says, "Come up hither."
No trumpet sounded by an angel starting in chapter 8 says, "Come up hither. Rev 8:1,2 says, "And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour (while the judge is being seated at the Judgment Seat of Christ). 2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets." Those angels have not received their trumpets yet when both the First-Trump Rapture and the Last-Trump Rapture take place.
In Rev 4:4, we see John and 23 other elders (12 patriarchs and 12 apostles) sitting on thrones in Heaven. When John gets his resurrection body and is caught up to Heaven, we will be caught up to Heaven with him.
We know that the 12 patriarchs are elders from Num 10:1-4. It says, "the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Make thee two trumpets of silver (because there are two Raptures); of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest USE THEM FOR THE CALLING OF THE ASSEMBLY (Heb 12:23), and for the journeying of the camps. 3 And when they shall blow with them (plural, i.e., both), ALL the assembly shall assemble themselves to thee at the DOOR (symbol of a Rapture) of the tabernacle of the congregation. 4 And if they blow but with ONE trumpet, then the PRINCES, which are heads of the thousands of ISRAEL, shall GATHER THEMSELVES UNTO THEE."
Heb 12:22-24 says, "But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23 To the GENERAL ASSEMBLY and CHURCH OF THE FIRSTBORN, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant".
Peter is one of the elders.

1Pe 5:1 says, "The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed."

In Rev 5:9, all the First-Trump-Rapture saints out of all nations are seen in Heaven singing the "new song."
Having been caught up with John and the other 23 elders that are part of the Body of Christ in 4:1, these saints are in Heaven in time to witness Jesus being given the seven-sealed Title Deed of the Earth. The first seal is not broken until 6:1, after the Rapture in 4:1 and after Christ recieves the 7-sealed book in 5:7.
Since the First-Trump Rapture has not yet taken place, the elders are not crowned or enthroned, and Jesus has not yet been given the seven-sealed book. Therefore, none of its 7 seals have been broken.
> > Is the 6th seal Rapture Imminent? 
No. It is the Last-Trump Rapture. It comes on the Day of God's Wrath just before the two asteroids of Rev 8:8-11 impact Earth.
> > Yes I believe it is.  In our pre-trib zeal, lets not be so eager to jam a Rapture event into scripture where it does not belong or is described.  Revelation Chapter 4’s “come up here” language, is only speaking to John, not a large group of people as we see at the sixth seal.
Of the saints caught up in the First-Trump Rapture, Rev 5:9 says, "they sung a NEW SONG, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood OUT OF EVERY KINDRED, AND TONGUE, AND PEOPLE, AND NATION".
At the Last-Trump Rapture, the saved Tribulation saints are too many to count.
After telling us about the 144,000 Israelites, Rev 7:9,14 says, "I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands...14 These are they which CAME OUT OF GREAT TRIBULATION, and have WASHED THEIR ROBES, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."
The first Rapture was for the Philadelphians, for whom the Lord had no words of condemnation. Therefore, they were wearing white robes. The Laodiceans were not wearing white robes at the time, so they got left behind. They wash their robes and are caught up in the second Rapture. No believer will be left behind the second time.
> > Why would those under the altar in heaven ask Jesus at the 5th seal, when he was going to avenge their murders, if the 7 yr. tribulation had already started?  Wouldn't they know like everyone else that there is just 7 short years left?
They ask because part of the Tribulation has already run its course.
> > Is the 6th seal Rapture Imminent?  Yes I believe it is.
No. The First-Trump Rapture precedes the breaking of the first seal. The Last-Trump Rapture of the Tribulation saints precedes the breaking of the 7th seal.
> > Also this group of people seen in heaven at the sixth seal has “come out of” the great tribulation, not “come through” as some have incorrectly quoted.  Even the original Greek says they have come out of it, not through it. 
If they come out of the Tribulation, they have been in the Tribulation.
> > The only question then becomes which portion did they come out of, and we see clearly that they have come out at the beginning, because earlier in the beginning of the seal, the people of earth proclaim God’s first day of wrath is here.  So then God’s wrath begins at the 6th seal, not beforehand.
The great and terrible Day of God's Wrath has arrived when the 6th seal is broken just before the Tribulation saints are caught up in the Last-Trump Rapture. God's wrath begins in Rev 8 at the breaking of the 7th seal.
Rev 8:1 says, "And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was SILENCE IN HEAVEN about the space of half an hour.
Both Heaven and Earth are silent while Christ is seated as judge at the Judgment Seat of Christ.

Hab 2:20 says, "But the LORD is in his holy temple: let all the EARTH keep silence before him."

Rev 8:2 says, "And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets."

The 7 trumpets come out of the 7th seal. The 7 vials come out of the 7th trumpet.

Rev 11:15-19 says, "And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. 16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, 17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come (future tense, the Second Advent will be 7 months in the future); because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. 18 And the nations were angry, and THY WRATH IS COME, and the time of the dead, that they should be JUDGED, and that thou shouldest give REWARD unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. 19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail."

The two stone tablets seem to have represented the two asteroid pieces that will impact Earth that day. Remember when Moses brought the tablets down the first time, he threw them down and smashed them? That pictured the asteroid pieces hitting Earth.

One rock as big as a mountain will hit the Mediterranean Sea. Satan's home, Wormwood, will obliterate Babylon near the Euphrates.

Isa 22:16-19 says, "What hast thou here? (Babylon) and whom hast thou here (the Satan-possessed False Prophet), that thou hast hewed thee out a sepulchre here, as he (Satan) that heweth him out a sepulchre on high, and that graveth an habitation for himself in a rock (named Wormwood)? 17 Behold, the LORD will carry thee away with a mighty captivity, and will surely cover thee. 18 He will surely violently turn and TOSS THEE LIKE A BALL into a large country (not tiny Israel): there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house. 19 And I will drive thee from thy station, and from thy state shall he pull thee down."

Marilyn Agee