Marilyn
Agee
(3 May 2004)
"Possible dates of the two
Raptures"
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2004/ernestn430.htm
Ernest
Nickle (30 Apr 2004)
"Re.
Ascension thru Pentecost"
Hi:
>
> The two witnesses could be the 2 men mentioned on Ascension day and not
angels.
That
sounds right to me. It doesn't say "angels."
Re:
the Ascension, Acts 1:10 says, "TWO MEN stood by them IN WHITE APPAREL."
Re:
the Transfiguration, Luke 9:30,31 says, "there talked with him TWO MEN,
which were Moses and Elias: Who appeared IN GLORY".
Moses
and Elijah will come when we are raptured. They are to prophesy during
the first 1260 days of the Tribulation.
On
Ascension Day, the TWO MEN said, "Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing
up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven,
shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven" (Acts
1:11). Jesus didn't come that day, but he sent the Comforter 10 days later,
on Pentecost.
I
thought the Rapture would be on Pentecost for a long time. However, the
2300-day Tribulation (Dan. 8:13,14,26) before Tishri 1, 5771 (Sept. 9,
2010) would start Sivan 3, 5764 (May 23, 2004), not Pentecost (Sivan 6
or 7).
On
Ascension Day, YHWH YAHshua, Jesus Christ, "was taken up; and a CLOUD received
him out of their sight" (Acts 1:9).
At
Mt. Sinai, "the LORD (YHWH) said unto Moses, Lo, I come unto thee in a
thick CLOUD " (Ex. 19:9). In verse 16, He came down, "and a thick CLOUD
(was) upon the mount".
There
are several parallels between the first Rapture and Israel at Mt. Sinai
(Ex. 19:9-20). The Pre-Trib Rapture is the FIRST TRUMP. The FIRST TRUMPET
of the Bible sounded at Mt. Sinai.
I
Thess. 4:16,17 says, "the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a
SHOUT, with the VOICE of the archangel, and with the TRUMP OF GOD: and
the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain
shall be caught up together with them in the CLOUDS, to meet the Lord in
the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."
We
find out that there is LIGHTNING AND THUNDER on the day of the Rapture
too. Rev. 4:1 says, "behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first
VOICE which I heard (Christ's, Rev. 1:10) was as it were of a TRUMPET talking
with me; which said, COME UP HITHER". Verse 5 says, "out of the throne
proceeded LIGHTNINGS and THUNDERINGS."
Let's
compare these things with the account at Mt. Sinai. Verse 1 tells us that
they arrived "In the third month" (chodesh, new moon, i.e., Sivan 1).
Ex.19:10-20
says, "the LORD said unto Moses, Go unto the people, and sanctify them
TO DAY (Sivan 1) and TO
MORROW (Sivan 2), and let them wash their clothes, And be ready
against the THIRD DAY (Sivan 3):
for THE THIRD DAY THE LORD WILL COME DOWN
in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai...when the TRUMPET soundeth
long, they shall come up to the mount. And Moses...said unto the people,
BE READY AGAINST THE THIRD DAY...And IT CAME TO PASS ON THE THIRD DAY...that
there were THUNDERS and LIGHTNINGS, and A THICK CLOUD upon the mount, and
the VOICE of the TRUMPET exceeding loud; so that all the people that was
in the camp trembled. And Moses brought forth the people out of the camp
to meet with God; and they stood at the nether part of the mount. And mount
Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the LORD descended upon it in
fire: and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the
whole mount quaked greatly. And when the voice of the TRUMPET
sounded long, and waxed louder and louder, Moses spake, and God answered
him by a VOICE. AND THE LORD CAME DOWN upon
mount Sinai, on the top of the mount: and THE LORD
CALLED MOSES UP to the top of the mount; and MOSES
WENT UP."
That
sounds like a good type of the Rapture, and the Lord came down on Sivan
3.
In
our days, Sivan 3, 5764 (Sunday, May 23, 2004) is 2300 days (Dan. 8:13,14)
before Tishri 1, 5771 (Thursday, Sept. 9, 2010), when I think the shortened
Tribulation will end. That year, 5771, is a Jewish Leap Year, and there
would be the necessary 7 months (Eze. 39:12,13) between Tishri 1, Day of
God's Wrath, and the following Nisan 1, the Second Advent on the first
day of the Regnal and Sacred Year. Israel will bury the bodies during those
7 months to cleanse the land for Christ's return in glory.
The
only other day that could fit this scenario seems to be Sivan 3, 5767 (Sunday,
May 20, 2007). It is 2300 days before Tishri 1, 5774 (Thursday, Sept. 5,
2013). The year 5774 is also a leap year.
I
pick Sivan 3, 5764, because Saturn (Heaven) is in Gemini (twins) now, right
where the Bride of Christ sits on the ecliptic with her Bridegroom. Eph.
2:6 says that he "hath raised us up together, and made us sit together
in heavenly places in Christ Jesus." On May 23, 2004, Mars and Saturn will
be in conjunction in Gemini too. Jupiter will be in Leo, which represents
Christ as the Lion of the tribe of Judah.
Saturn
takes 29.5 years to come back to that spot again. I think the Rapture will
be while Saturn is in Gemini this time. She will leave Gemini around July
1, 2005.
In
Mt. 24:37, Jesus said, "as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming
of the Son of man be." Saturn was in Gemini when Noah went into the Ark
in 1656 AH (2387 BC), the Lord shut him in, and he was floated up. Jupiter
was in Leo at that time too.
Saturn
was also in Gemini during the Crucifixion, Resurrection, Ascension and
Pentecost in 30 AD. Jesus, the Bridegroom, ascended to Heaven (Saturn)
when it was in Gemini. I think we will too. Maybe the Holy Spirit will
return to empower Tribulation saints on Pentecost as he did Church saints
in 30 AD.
Since
there is thunder on the first and last days of the 2300, and none in between
them, I now think the two Raptures (Pre-Trib and Pre-Wrath) will probably
take place on the first and last days of the 2300, Sivan 3, 5764 (Sunday,
May 23, 5764) and Tishri 1, 5771 (Thursday, Sept. 9, 2010).
II
Thess. 2:7,8 shows that the Holy Spirit will hinder "until he be taken
out of the way. And then (tote, at the same time) shall that Wicked (i.e.,
the False Prophet) be revealed." Therefore, I think the Holy Spirit will
be taken out of the way at the Pre-Trib Rapture on the first day of the
2300-day Tribulation, May 23, 2004.
I
Thess. 4:14-18 says, "For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again,
even so them also which sleep in Jesus will GOD (i.e., YHWH YAHshua, Jesus
Christ) bring with him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord,
that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not
prevent (i.e., precede) them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall
descend from heaven with a SHOUT, with the VOICE of the archangel, and
with the TRUMP of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we
which are alive and remain shall be CAUGHT UP together with them in the
clouds, TO MEET THE LORD IN THE AIR: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Wherefore COMFORT one another with these words."
Luke
21:36 says, "Watch ye therefore, and PRAY ALWAYS, that ye may be ACCOUNTED
WORTHY to ESCAPE all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand
before the Son of man."
Let
us, "who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith
and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation (soteria, RESCUE). For
God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord
Jesus Christ, Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should
live together with him. Wherefore COMFORT yourselves together" (I Thess.
5:8,9).
1
Thess. 1:10 says, "wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the
dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come."
Agape,
Marilyn
Agee
mjagee@pe.net
http://www.prophecycorner.com/agee