Gino (27 March 2013)
"RE: Jovial, Renee M, Frank, Martin & Michael: Abomination of Desolation"


Jovial, Renee M, Frank, Martin & Michael, and the others who have written letters to FiveDoves regarding the Abomination of Desolation:

 

Is it possible that the antichrist does not cause a third temple to “become” desolate?

I had always been taught that he makes it desolate by placing an image of himself in the holy place.

However, if he does make it desolate, he is not making it desolate to the LORD.

That place has been desolate since Jesus said so:

 

Matthew 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Matthew 24:1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.

2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

 

Jesus left the temple desolate, because he said so, and when he, the incarnated LORD, departed, that was it.

Then he told his disciples that the temple would be torn down, which it was, about years later.

When Jesus said that he was leaving their house desolate unto them, it wasn’t desolate of human beings, as for nearly 40 more years there would be people in there.

He didn’t leave it desolate of religious activity, as they continued with that for nearly 40 more years.
He left it desolate, because he, the LORD of Glory was departing from there, and pronouncing the place desolate, essentially “Ichabod”.

 

Daniel’s prophecies regarding the temple were short term, near term, and long term.

There was a short term fulfillment in the days of Antiochus Epiphanies (historically captured in the Apocrypha, Maccabees).

There was a near term fulfillment in the days of Jesus’ earthly ministry, and shortly thereafter.

Long term, there may yet be things still to happen.

 

Before the prophecies in the book of Daniel were given to him, a similar thing had happened when Daniel was a youth.

Nebuchadnezzar came into Jerusalem and destroyed the temple.

Ezekiel, who was in Babylon at the time, was given a vision of that:

First, the glory of the LORD was still in the temple:

Ezekiel 8:3 And he put forth the form of an hand, and took me by a lock of mine head; and the spirit lifted me up between the earth and the heaven, and brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem, to the door of the inner gate that looketh toward the north; where was the seat of the image of jealousy, which provoketh to jealousy.

4 And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel was there, according to the vision that I saw in the plain.

 

Second, the glory of the LORD went up to the threshold:

Ezekiel 10: 4 Then the glory of the LORD went up from the cherub, and stood over the threshold of the house; and the house was filled with the cloud, and the court was full of the brightness of the LORD'S glory.

 

Third, the glory of the LORD departed from off the threshold:

Ezekiel 10:18 Then the glory of the LORD departed from off the threshold of the house, and stood over the cherubims.

19 And the cherubims lifted up their wings, and mounted up from the earth in my sight: when they went out, the wheels also were beside them, and every one stood at the door of the east gate of the LORD'S house; and the glory of the God of Israel was over them above.

 

So where did the glory of the LORD go next?          

Ezekiel 11:22 ¶ Then did the cherubims lift up their wings, and the wheels beside them; and the glory of the God of Israel was over them above.

23 And the glory of the LORD went up from the midst of the city, and stood upon the mountain which is on the east side of the city.

 

The glory of the LORD had left the temple and went next to the mount of Olives, the mount on the east side of the city, as shown in the prophecy about the Second Advent:

Zechariah 14:4 ¶ And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

 

The glory of the LORD departed from the temple and went to the mount of Olives, leaving the temple desolate – Like Shiloh, it had become “Ichabod”.

Then not long afterwards, Nebuchadnezzar came and destroyed the already desolate temple.

Those priests in there, after the glory had departed, and before Nebuchadnezzar came, like Samson, did not realize.

 

Some years later, in a similar fashion, the LORD of glory was in the temple again, this time incarnated, Jesus Christ.

So, in similar fashion, when the LORD of glory departed from there, he went next to the mount of Olives, again (Matthew 24:1-3).

 

Although it doesn’t say explicitly, I believe that during the 70 years Babylonian captivity, that the glory of the LORD didn’t stay upon the mount of Olives.

I believe that the glory of the LORD went back to heaven during that time.

In a similar fashion, forty days after his resurrection, the LORD of glory ascended from the mount of Olives and returned to heaven.

 

So Jesus said that he was leaving the place desolate unto them.

Also, that they would not see him henceforth till they say, “Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord”.

That doesn’t happen until the Second Advent.

 

So how could the antichrist make a third temple desolate, in the same fashion as the first two had been made desolate?

Or how could he make a third temple desolate like Antiochus Epiphanies did?

How could he make it desolate like that, unless it had first become “un-desolate”?

It currently is desolate since Jesus left it at the end of Matthew 23, and then was destroyed nearly 40 years later.

 

I had always assumed that it became “un-desolate”, when the third temple was rebuilt.

When it was sprinkled with the water of the ashes of the red heifer.

Also when it was sprinkled with the blood of the renewed animal sacrifices.

But I was dead wrong! Those things absolutely cannot make that place “un-desolate”.

 

I wrote about this in a little more detail, a few days ago:

             http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2013/gino317-2.htm

 

But suffice it to say, a third temple, built by an agreement with the antichrist cannot make it “un-desolate”.

Also, a temple built by a Levitical priesthood that rejects Jesus cannot make it “un-desolate”.

There is now a new covenant.

There is also now, a new and everlasting priesthood after the order of Melchisedec.

There has been a once and for all sacrifice of the Lamb of God.

 

So, for a Levitical priesthood, who still reject their Messiah, to try and go back to the old covenant, while they reject the new covenant,

             to try and go back from the new High Priesthood of Christ to their old covenant Levitical priesthood, while rejecting the new High Priest,

             to try and go back to the old covenant sacrifices, while rejecting the only acceptable sacrifice of the Lamb of God,

             to try and rebuild their temple after the LORD used the Romans destroy it, the same Romans that they used to crucify their Messiah,

             to try and do all this by making a some kind of agreement with the antichrist, while still rejecting Jesus Christ,

             how could that be blessed & acceptable to the LORD, to somehow make it “un-desolate”?

No, those things are a far greater abomination, than any graven image that the antichrist could put there.

What blasphemy they would be making by having animal sacrifices again, when there is no more sacrifice for sins after the cross.

Their ultimate blasphemy would not somehow make a third temple “un-desolate”, so that the antichrist could then make it desolate afterwards.

 

We must also remember what happened during Antiochus Epiphanies, and what happened during the earthly ministry of Jesus, and shortly thereafter, when reading Daniel.

Even if the antichrist & a replaced Levitical priesthood get together, build a temple and start sacrificing animals, they cannot make it “un-desolate”.

Also the LORD is not going to honor such blasphemy by making it “un-desolate”, and thus negating his new covenant & new priesthood, by going back to the old.

A third temple is not going to somehow become “un-desolate”, so that the antichrist can then actually make it desolate.

Jesus left it desolate, and it will stay desolate until he returns.

 

I would love to read what you think of these things, but please, before you respond, take a brief pause to see how I had explained this by scriptures:

             http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2013/gino317-2.htm

 

                                       Thank you,

                                                    Gino