some questions I need some help with. I have been in both camps at
one time or another in my faith journey. Although during my periods of
partial rapture belief, it was more based on those left behind were not
really saved, not just immature or not fully sanctified believers. Now,
as I am reading all these posts, I am constantly coming up with
questions on a point or two from each post, so I will try to
consolidate them here.
Because, He removes our sins from as far as the east is from the west
(Ps 103:12) and because one sin is not more grievous than the next as
pointed out that if we are guilty of breaking one jot or tittle of the
law, we are guilty of breaking the whole thing (James 2:10)...
Then how can anyone be
left behind for the sin of not glorifying God, or not becoming more Christlike in honor and
devotion for His substitutionary death?
this sin not covered by the blood of the Lamb? How many
exactly, does it take to get left behind? One, 10, 1000,
How many are we forgiven for?
Because there is no
condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, then there is NO
condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, even the immature ones.
If He is faithful to complete in us what He has started, then
when the end of the world comes, it won't be half done, it will be
finished (In fact, were these not Jesus' last words? Not, It is
done....). If it is finished, how can anyone be then left on
own, without the Holy Spirit, to try and finish it on their own?
Adam is a symbol of the body of Christ (not sure about this one...
isn't he a type of Christ, not of the body of Christ which is the
church... can anyone help me with this?).... How does the All rapture camp get around
the Bride only coming from the rib.. obviously only a small
portion of the body?
am confused about the virgins. The church is never called
thing as the world. We have the wheat and the tares, the sheep
goats, etc....when there is a separation, there is a
Why are both groups virgins? And how does the Partial rapture camp get
around the fact that they are going to the Wedding feast and not the
The Wedding precedes the feast by 7 days and then the bride and groom
are hidden away for 7 days and THEN the feast. How can the
the same as the Bride? And how can the Bride be locked out
feast.. AFTER the Wedding????
And because Jesus knows His sheep, how can He say
to the foolish virgins I never
knew you? Wouldn't that be a lie if the truth was.. I once knew
you, but now I don't because you didn't have enough oil? Doesn't the mere fact that He says I NEVER
knew you, mean that these people were never saved in the first
place? Thus they are CINO's... or tribulation folks that
must earn their way into the feast.
one stated that Daniel was a type of First fruits and that He was
symbolic of the first rapture and the other three went to the fiery
furnace. BUT, isn't Daniel symbolic of Christ who was the
of the resurrection? That makes all the believers going through
same fiery furnace of which we have been in for the last 2000
Wasn't Christ there amoung them? Didn't Jesus say that He would
leave us, even unto the end of the world? Isn't the
Holy Spirit (Christ says "I and the Holy Spirit are one)? So
if the restrainer is removed, and we are left without the Holy Spirit
and without the Lord, then, Jesus would be a liar... He will not leave
His Sheep EVER!. Jesus says that in this life will
trials and tribulations, but be of good cheer, for I have overcome the
world. And that He would never leave us. The
will have been left! How does that match up?
As Kevin Heckle put it, if it is the
blood of Christ that makes us worthy, then how can someone be found
How can someone have "a little bit" of the Holy Ghost? If
Ghost has sealed us, does the seal fall off like the wax on the back of
a letter, because it wasn't put on well enough? Or there
enough wax to hold it securely?
Sorry so many questions,
but each time a read a post on this more and more questions keep
popping up.. these are only the questions from this mornings posts....
I would love to hear what you all have to say.. blessings, Susanna
|Ok... help me think this through...
Rom 10:13 For "everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be
But He also says in Matt 7:21-23:
7:21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the
kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in
Mat 7:22 On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord,
did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and
do many mighty works in your name?'
Mat 7:23 And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you;
depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.'
Is this because He says the will of His Father is:
6:40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks
Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him
up on the last day."
So.. Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord
will be saved.. But not everyone who says "Lord, Lord" will be saved..
only those who do the will of the Father which is to believe (no works) in
So obviously you can say Lord Lord and not believe in Jesus. This
must be what CINO means.