Michael Colunga (5 March 2011)

Hello, John and Doves,
It may amaze and alarm you, sister Marilyn, that there were, in point of fact, four camps of the
Israelites in the wilderness.  Each one camped on their own side of the Tabernacle.  From the air,
the entire camp [collective meaning] of the Israelites looked like a cross.
When the Israelites set up camp, it was in a prescribed order.  When they decamped, it was in the
exact reverse order.  Check it out!!  Read Numbers, chapter 2.
For more info, see http://www.asis.com/users/stag/bible/wildcamp.html.
If you wanted to base the Rapture on the camp [collective meaning] of the Israelites, as told to
Moses by the LORD, then you'd have a problem, I would think.  Jesus was not resurrected from
the cross.
Nevertheless, sister Marilyn, I urge you to keep thinking outside the box.  That's what
independent thinkers do, after all.
In HaShem,
Mike C.
Marilyn Agee (3 March 2011)
"Bruce Warner: "LET IT RAIN, LET IT RAIN"

From: Marilyn Agee
Re: Bruce Warner (2 March 2011)
> > The "first month" of the Biblical/Spiritual Year is 'Nisan' which this Scripture tells us is when the "latter rain" comes, and is the 'Spring month' of our rapture.
Among your many posts, this email is the best thing you have written. Congratulations on a job well done.
The two Raptures, on Nisan 1 and Tishri 1, are to be announced by trumpets, and the trumpet sounds on the first of every month. Therefore, it sounds on Nisan 1 and Tishri 1, the dates of the two Raptures and the two Advents.
Here is the type. Num 10:1-4 says, "And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Make thee TWO TRUMPETS of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest USE THEM (both) FOR THE CALLING OF THE ASSEMBLY, AND FOR THE JOURNEYING OF THE CAMPS (plural). And when they shall blow with them (plural, i.e., BOTH), all the assembly shall assemble themselves to thee at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation (as on Tishri 1). And if they blow but with ONE trumpet (i.e., at the first Rapture), then the princes, which are heads of the thousands of Israel (i.e., 12 of the 24 elders, the other 12 are the apostles), shall gather themselves unto thee."
Heb 12:22-24 says, "But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, To the GENERAL ASSEMBLY and CHURCH OF THE FIRSTBORN, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant".
This gathering is after the second Rapture. The "CHURCH OF THE FIRSTBORN" IS ALREADY THERE. The 24 elders are seen on their thrones in Rev 4:4. John is among them.
Bruce Warner (2 March 2011)

Dear Doves,

In the following Scriptures the 'first coming' of the Lord is described as the 'FORMER RAIN', and the 'appearing of the Lord at our rapture' is described as the 'LATTER RAIN':

Jeremiah 5:24
"Neither they say in their heart, let us now fear the Lord our God, that giveth RAIN, both the former and THE LATTER, in His season: He reserveth UNTO US the APPOINTED WEEKS OF THE HARVEST."   ("In His season" of latter rain, Jesus has "reserved for us" an appointed harvest/rapture)

Hosea 6:3
"Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the Lord: His going forth is prepared as the morning; and HE SHALL COME UNTO US AS THE RAIN, AS THE LATTER and former RAIN unto the earth."   (Jesus will come to us next as the "latter rain")

Proverbs 16:15
"In the light of the King's countenance is LIFE; and HIS FAVOUR is as a cloud of THE LATTER RAIN."   (eternal "life" comes when Jesus who is "His favour is as as a cloud of the latter rain" comes in a cloud at our rapture)

Zechariah 10:1
"Ask ye of the Lord rain in the time of THE LATTER RAIN; so the Lord shall make bright clouds, and give them showers of rain, to everyone grass in the field."    (Jesus will come in "bright clouds" at the time of His appearing for our rapture at the time of the "latter rain")

Joel 2:23
"Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the Lord your God: for He hath given you the former rain moderately, and He will cause to come down for you rain, the former rain, and THE LATTER RAIN IN THE FIRST MONTH."     (The "first month" of the Biblical/Spiritual Year is 'Nisan' which this Scripture tells us is when the "latter rain" comes, and is the 'Spring month' of our rapture.)

James 5:7
"Be patient therefore, brethern, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for THE PRECIOUS FRUIT OF THE EARTH, and has long patience for it, until he receive the early AND LATTER RAIN."   (The "precious fruit of the earth" is 'His Church' who waits patiently for Jesus, who is the "latter rain", to appear for the rapture)

The near future 'forecast outlook' is cloudy with a 100-percent chance of 'LATTER RAIN' in the month of Nisan.

According to Your Word, come Lord Jesus!

Bruce Warner