hej Nomen !   Following your thougths, 3.1/2 years counted backwards from 2o12 are the 1. of June 2oo9 where you believe in, that the Great tribulation begin, - if this is the same as the great troubles for Jacob, (then the Christians must have gone) and then the first part you call the tribulation, have been for the final end of the gentiles - church time. 3.1/2 year counted back from june o9, take us to 1.of Dec 2oo5 - did they write on the five doves then ???   Open the following link and take a look.    http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2005/dec1-2005.htm

  Nomen Nescio (23 Feb 2009)
"We are out of time"

Just a thought and just throwing this out there.  Let's just say that if we go with the Mayan calendar and 2012 is the proposed end of time and the Bible says that the tribulation period will be seven years in duration.  The first 3 1/2 years is called the tribulation and the second 3 1/2 years is called the Great Tribulation.  If you count backwards 3 1/2 years from 2012 that would take us into June 1st of 2009.  So if we really look at this we can see that we don't have years or several months, what we have is approximately 13 weeks before the Great Tribulation begins!!!!~  Essentially we are out of time.


Just throwing this out there………….