Luke 13: 28.  There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.  29.  And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.   Umm, it sounds like the rapture is what Jesus is referring to here, isn't is? And unless there is an Abraham Smith, Isaac Jones, Jacob Twiddleby and prophets of today's church that Jesus is referring to here, I'd say He must be referring to the Old Testament saints that we know and love. Moses was there at the transfiguration and he died before.   As for the "rest of the dead" not being raised until the thousand years were finished, is there any way that this could be referring to the dead "not in Christ" as in dead in sins and not saved at all; who have to wait until the end of the millennium when the sea gives up the dead and death and hell give up their dead etc. as opposed to considering Old Testament saints as being called not in Christ. I believe that Old Testament saints are saved exactly as we are except they looked foreword to the promise of the savior and we look back to the actual event but faith is involved in every case and is counted for righteousness. If Abraham is the father of faith, how could he not be included in the household of faith. Hebrews speaks of those of whom the world was not worthy, and says we are compassed about with a great cloud of witnesses. But are they not raised with us? Every saved person is saved by Jesus' sacrifice, whether today or clear back to Adam.   I have heard Chuck Missler teach that John the Baptist is not in the kingdom because of when Jesus said:   Matthew 11: 11.  Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.   Well, here is what I believe Jesus was saying: Simply that if you were to measure mankind strictly by his human performance without God's covering and atoning work being applied to save us, and were to pick who among all men has the best record of righteousness to their name, John the Baptist received the highest mark. No man was greater than John when judging by human performance. I mean how many of us leapt in our mother's womb at the sound of our Lord's mother's greeting? Or lived his whole life only for the ministry, out in some wilderness, wearing camel hair and ate locust and wild honey and would stand up to the Roman Empire and the Pharisees and King Herod even unto his death? John has the best record when judging by human performance. That is why Jesus said of men born of women period! And then it's as if Jesus went on to say "Big deal, that still is not enough to get him into the kingdom without Me to save him; therefore if he stays outside of My kingdom, then even the least person inside of My kingdom is greater than John would be." That is all that Jesus was saying! He was not trying to make some distinction about who is in the kingdom and who is not. His point is simply to say "Hey, you're no John the Baptist so you better get in through ME you stinky outfit..." To go on from that statement and try to suggest that Jesus was telling us that John was still Old Testament and therefore he does not get to be included with you fortunate ones and you lovely people who God has chosen to be born now instead of previous to now, is to make a suggestion not found in what Jesus said, and I believe there is ample other scriptures to tell us that John is indeed in the kingdom! He is one of the prophets and above Jesus said ALL the prophets will be there when we get raptured.   This idea that something magical happens when you get "born again" that poor old John the Baptist and all others before him don't get to participate in that makes us special is an invention of men. The term "born again" was a colloquialism of Jesus' day that Nicodemus understood because as a Pharisee, Nicodemus would likely have used that term when proselytizing an outsider into the Jewish faith. Prior to Jesus' grabbing hold of that term and giving it new meaning, it simply meant to "change your mind" completely from one belief to an entirely new one. That there was nothing from your former belief that was salvageable and that could be incorporated into your new faith. If some Roman or Greek was coming from a faith of paganism with a pantheon of gods, and wanted to adopt the Jewish faith instead, he would have been told by Nicodemus that he must be born again before he can adopt the new faith because there was no part of his old belief system that was compatible with what he would be told was the new one. Jesus shocked Nicodemus when He used that term on him concerning who He was. When He said you must be born again, he was saying that there is no way you as a Pharisee will be able to understand who I am and what I am here to do based upon what you have been taught your whole Pharisee life. You have to dump all that in the trash and start over brand new right from scratch if you want to get it. That, my friends is why Nic used an intellectual absurdity back in response to Jesus' statement by saying sarcastically, "Can a man who is old enter his mother's womb and be born a second time, because you might just as well tell me that I have to do that since throwing out everything that I have been taught up to now and starting over would be just as impossible." That's when Jesus began to explain that there is a spiritual transformation from God that will accomplish this and provide a work that would be impossible by you alone. And Jesus begins to speak of the work of the Holy Spirit and those who are led of the Spirit being like wind to those who are not, that is unpredictable.   Well, now there has been a major emphasis on this spiritual transformation as though that were all that was necessary and once a person has experienced it he's made it and can sit down pleased with himself that he's in and nothing can ever happen to keep him from being eternally "saved". From this teaching comes all kinds of other errors as well.   I like what this person posted again from the rapture dream:   There also, the instant transformation had   taken place of many. I was told that this same event had happened all   over the Earth and all born again, Spirit filled followers of Jesus   had been thus transformed, at whatever spot they happened to be in   that instant, and were joined by many of God's Holy Ones, from the   dawn of creation up to the present time.   Notice that there are three things mentioned that the transformed ones have 1. They are born again 2. They are Spirit filled 3. They are followers of Jesus   If any of these three are not in a person's life, will they be transformed with the others? But also there are others from the dawn of creation to the present.   Barry Amundsen