Maybe you find a comfort in the idea of being a grafted in Gentile fleeing with the woman to a wilderness and all that but I do not.   The Church of Jesus christ is not included in that situation or description, for in Christ there is no longer Jew nor Greek etc.   Galatians 3: 27.  For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.  28.  There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.   ________________________________________ Many of us 'grafted in Gentiles', Romans 11:17-24, will join the 'woman' fleeing to the wilderness in a 'supernatural Greater exodus' with Psalm 91:11-14 telling us angels will be an agent used to bring us into a place of refuge for 1260 days. ___________________________________________   You seem to include yourself and you say many of us, well you may be correct in that since many do choose to remain ignorant of the promises that could have delivered them from this fate. It may then well be a comfort for those who need it but for those who are expecting Jesus to take us to be with Him that where He is (in His Father's house, not in the wilderness) there we may be also, it is not needed.   ________________________________________________   They have been ¡duped¢ by the prophecy guru¢s of the 70¢s and 80¢s and are looking for a rapture that I believe WILL NOT COME until the last day, Rosh Hashanah, September 17, 2012 or 1260 days after the April 6, 2009 ¡Exodus¢ into the wilderness.   ______________________________________________   Hebrews 9:  27.  And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:  28.  So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.   2 Timothy 4: 8.  Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.   6.  But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.  13.  But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.  14.  For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;  15.  While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.  16.  For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.  17.  But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?  18.  And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?  19.  So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief. What voice do you suppose God is talking about here that we are going to hear and we are exhorted not to harden our heart when we hear it? I suggest to you that it may be this voice:   1 Thessalonians 4:  16.  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:  17.  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.  18.  Wherefore comfort one another with these words. If you harden your heart when you hear this voice will you through unbelief meet the same fate as the ones given as an example of what not to do at that same situation? They died in the wilderness rather than enter in to the Promised Land.   I will hold fast my confidence.   Barry Amundsen