John (27 Mar 2022)
"revelation sequence short version"



Hi John and Doves,

I have condensed my revelation sequence suggestion from last week into a short version.

This Revelation Sequence is based on a suggestion from the other sequence that I read
and linked here that the seals are spread out over the 7 years, and then finding
link passages to be able to slot everything else in where there is a link.


So
SEAL 1  SEAL 2  SEAL 3  SEAL 4  SEAL 5  SEAL 6  SEAL 7

The Harvest and revelation 14 and Revelation 7 both slot in at
either before seal 1, or at Seal 3, if seal 3 "scales" matches the harvest.
And the 144,000 on both rev 7 & 14 are before the harvest. "the firstfruits"

The beast and the mark are in the last 3.5 years, and likely match Seal 4 & 5 & 6

The key logic for the harvest being before the beast and the Mark is Rev 14:9
where the angel calls people to not receive the mark (so this must be proclaimed before the mark)

Rev 14:9  A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: "If anyone worships the
beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand ....

The Trumpets are likely a "lesser events than the bowls" and are before the Beast and Mark.
Based on 2 things - first the scale is less.
The second trumpet is Sea / blood / "a THIRD of living creatures in the sea died"
2nd Bowl is Sea/blood / every living thing died in the sea

And also because in the 5th Trumpet, the pit/abyss is opened.
And this links to this passage which says that the beast comes from the pit.
Rev 17:8 - The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to rise from the bottomless pit (Abyss) and go to destruction.

If you read Revelation 14 and Revelation 7 with the possibility that the events of both these chapters both occur before the beast and the mark,
then a lot of things make sense.

Rev 13:8  All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast--all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging
to the Lamb that was slain from the creation of the world.

The other key link verse
the 4th seal includes "kill a fourth of the earth"
the 6th Trumpet includes "Kill a third of Mankind" so maybe the 6th trumpet matches with the 4th seal.

Also linked
the Mountain and Island moving of the 6th Seal matches the 7th Bowl Mountains and Islands

Rev 7: 2-3 - Seal the servants of our God, and the 144,000 before the 4 angels harm the earth/sea. (which looks like the trumpets angels)
(So this matches the harvest which is before the trumpet angels)

The bowls are all right at the end of the beasts / marks 42 months, as Bowl 1 is "against those with the mark"

So to summarise, with the above logic, the sequence would be.

Seal 1 and Seal 2 - EITHER these have already happened with Covid/vax and the Ukraine war starting, and THEN the harvest.
OR
The harvest first, and then the first 3 seals.

Then around year 3 / seal 3 to 4, the trumpets kick in and trumpet 5 opens the pit to release the beast,
and trumpet 6 matches the 4th seal where 3rd / 4th of mankind are killed.

Then the beast/mark happens at the same time as seal 4/5/6   and trumpet 6.
And trumpet 7 is at the end, as well as all the bowls at the end, and the 6th and 7th seal at the end.


What about revelation 12?

So Maybe the Male child is the rapture, which matches the great multitude
Then 1260 days women wilderness
may be similar to the 2 witnesses, both of which may either parallel the beasts 42 months, or start a bit before and overlap.


Now, if this timeline was correct, what possible logic could there be to having 7 Seals, and 7 trumpets within the seals,
and then a seperate timeline with the beast and mark, and then a final 7 bowls???

Different perspective? Seals are the overall 7 years.
All the 7's may be a pointer to "7 years"
The angels do 7 trumpets, then 7 angels do 7 bowls.

Rev 8:1


2And I saw the seven angels who stand
before God, and to them were given
seven trumpets.
3Another angel, who had a golden
censer, came and stood at the altar. He
was given much incense to offer, with
the prayers of all the saints, on the
golden altar before the throne.
4The smoke of the incense, together
with the prayers of the saints, went up
before God from the angel's hand.

So, MAYBE, 7 trumpets were given to these 7 angels based on "the prayers for justice"????


Before this... in Rev 7

He called out in a loud voice
to the four angels who had been given
power to harm the land and the sea:
3"Do not harm the land or the sea or the
trees until we put a seal on the
foreheads of the servants of our God."


But if this timeline is correct, then why doesnt it say at trumpet 5 "the beast came from the pit"??

Rev 9
2When he opened the Abyss, smoke
rose from it like the smoke from a
gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were
darkened by the smoke from the Abyss.





Then, if we compare this to the bowls...

Revelation 15


15I saw in heaven another great and
marvelous sign: seven angels with the
seven last plagues--last, because with
them God's wrath is completed.

This hints, that "there was wrath before these last plagues/bowls" - so likely the 7 trumpets was "the earlier part
of Gods wrath".



6Out of the temple came the seven
angels with the seven plagues. They
were dressed in clean, shining linen and
wore golden sashes around their chests.
7Then one of the four living creatures
gave to the seven angels seven golden
bowls filled with the wrath of God, who
lives for ever and ever.


more at last weeks link

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/mar2022/john320.htm