John Clark (4 Mar 2018)
"RE: "re Wilkerson vs Trump, one a false prophet." Frank Molver (25 Feb 2018)""



RE: "re Wilkerson vs Trump, one a false prophet." Frank Molver (25 Feb 2018)"
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2018/frankm225.htm

The frustration is understandable, that is expressed by the speaker in the YouTube, comparing the words of David Wilkerson versus the words of Mark Taylor (representing "vs. Trump.").  But this comparison also demonstrates a common lack of understanding regarding prophecies.  Contradictions throughout the Scripture and prophecies are extremely common.  We need to be able to recognize the true prophets, appropriately judge the prophecies and be able to discern our time of visitation.

You do not judge a prophet based solely upon the accuracy of his prophecy.  Jonah prophesied, "yet 40 days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown."  This did not occur, and I doubt if anyone would boldly declare that Jonah was a false prophet.  Nineveh was eventually overthrown, but that was approximately 100 years later.  Should the apostle John be considered a false prophet, seeing that the book of Revelation was not fulfilled within a generation or two? 

Caiaphas, correctly prophesied that Jesus should die for the nation, and yet he was plotting the Messiah's murder:
Jhn 11:49         And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all,
Jhn 11:50           Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not.
Jhn 11:51           And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;
Jhn 11:52           And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad.
Jhn 11:53         Then from that day forth they took counsel together for to put him to death.

There was a woman in the book of Acts who accurately  prophesied that the apostles were men of God.  That was until the apostles cast out her demons.  Therefore, a true prophet is not determined strictly upon the accuracy of the prophecy.

Jesus does tell us how we might identify between a true and false prophet.
Mat 7:15         Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Mat 7:16           Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Therefore, a true prophet is recognized by his fruits (character).  And the true fruit of the Spirit of God are listed in Galatians 5:23 24.

The difficulty we have today, is that most of us do not have the opportunity to get close enough to the one who is prophesying, to inspect their fruit.  Paul tells us in first Corinthians chapter 14, that we should let the prophets speak two or three, and let the others judge.  And he also indicates that the spirits of the prophets, are subject to the prophets.  Therefore, a prophecy may contain a mixture of Holy Spirit and human spirit.  It usually takes maturity, experience and a rigid obedience to present God's word purely, and not based on our own perceptions.

Our greatest handicap is that we are creatures set in "time."  The Father and Holy Spirit are eternal and are without our time limitation.  Therefore, a single prophecy can contain information concerning the first and the second coming of Messiah, at the same time.  I recall Hal Lindsay, giving the example in The Late Great Planet Earth, of Scripture, reporting that the Messiah would come from Bethlehem, come from Egypt and be a Nazarene.  He stated that you can conclude from this that the Messiah would be triplets.  There was no way that anyone could determine beforehand that Messiah would be born in Bethlehem, flee to Egypt, come out of Egypt and live in Nazareth.  Daniel 2:21 also states that "(God) he changeth the times and the seasons:" .  Jonah would be an excellent example of this.  The Ninevites repented, therefore God delayed their judgment 100 years.  Is He Capable of doing the same thing for the judgment against the United States?

Therefore, I do not see this as an either/or situation.  It is not "Wilkerson vs. Trump (Taylor)."  From my perspective, I never saw "bad fruit," from David Wilkerson.  And I have yet to see "bad fruit," from Mark Taylor.  From my personal experience, I would rate  Dumitru Duduman as an excellent example of a modern day prophet.  He exhibited excellent "fruit."  He has many validated words along with many words yet to be fulfilled.  His prophecies would be considered directly in line with David Wilkerson.  I perceive that Mark Taylor's prophetic ministry has a slightly different mission/purpose.  He appears to be presenting more of a word of knowledge regarding God's purpose/plan for president Trump.

I will present my thoughts on the role of president Trump in these latter days,  in a separate post.  That is, if John would be so good to publish it.

Shalom,
John