A fellow dove wrote and asked me to clarify timelines and events of which I and others have been writing. He also asked if I thought there was time to be counted worthy. It is a little bit of a personal letter, but it seemed to help him in understanding. It is an overview and maybe it will help any who are interested put together the broad picture from rapture until Jesus' return.
I do promise all the doves that I will get busy and finish the letters I promised. Breaking them into subjects allows greater details and references. They are interwoven and hard to separate, but doing so helps everyone absorb things in smaller blocks.
Subjects to follow: 1. Spring Feasts 2. Second Passover 3. Rapture Events 4. The Bride & The Tribulation Saints 5. Seals of Revelations 6. House of Joseph & the 7 Year Curse 7. Worthiness
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Friend, I sure hope there is time to be counted worthy. I will assure you I have the same problems purging my body/mind from sin as everyone else. All I know is to do be best we can and trust the Lord for the rest. What we can't do we leave to His mercy to be covered by His blood. We have hope.
Now, I still have some issues that must be resolved and I am working on it. One evening while I was meditating out doors (kind of like Isaac in Gen 24:63) I quietly uttered the words "Trust Him..,..Trust Him". At that very moment this came out of my mouth a beautiful shooting star went directly over my head traveling in the same direction I was walking.
I would like very much the honor of being the bride. If I am not selected, like others I will be hurt and a little scared, even more so for my family. You can count on the fact that I will be fasting and praying, asking for the Holy Spirit as did Elisha of Elijah and the man in Luke 11: 5-13. The friend the man was talking to was Jesus. His friend on a far journey was Jesus too. The bread he was asking for was the Holy Spirit (vs 13). Asking for the Holy Spirit is a necessity. I will continue to "Trust Him".
But, I do recommend both of us, as did Hezekiah, begin to make a special effort to clean out the temple. You will note in 2 Chronicles 30, that of the attendees, some were clean and sanctified and some not. These are like the wise and unwise virgins. It would appear that after the midnight cry (resurrection of the dead), the living virgins will undergo 7 days of Unleavened bread. This is the same as the virgins trimming the lamps. It is a time period of confessing, repenting and maybe fasting to rid leaven (sin) from our body/mind, the temple of the Holy Ghosts. Doing so will make our light shine brighter. At the end of this 7 days, the living wise will be changed immortal in the twinkling of an eye. This is a necessity to ascend into heaven (1 Cor 15:51-52). You notice the unwise virgins recognize the wise have changed. They have time to ask the wise how to get the necessary oil and the wise have time to reply. In the Hezekiah passage this is the point at which they take a vote (for joy & anticipation) to extend the feast 7 more days. This should lead to a Thursday evening ascension of the living bride as did Isaac see Rebekah coming on the camels at even tide (Gen 24:63). It is a 7 + 7 day pattern.
We should not do like the many in Ephraim and Manasseh (Joseph's children and English speaking peoples of the world). When Hezekiah sent out messengers notifying them of the feast, many laughed the messengers to scorn and mocked. Those who took heed and got busy, seemed to be the ones who managed to be clean and sanctified. It is not wise to wait until the midnight cry. The scriptural tendency of God is He pleads and pleads showing mercy for those who listen and repent. But, once He makes His move (either wrath or a judgement event like the midnight cry), then He will not listen to your cries. This is a serious time. This is about worthiness to receive a reward (crown) to stand before the Son of man and miss the hour of trial which comes upon the earth. It is a reward over and above the free gift of eternal life. This is about those who will be kings and priests (pillars, i.e. leaders in His kingdom).
All men are born into sin (spiritual whores), so all the virgins are believers born again, yet there is division. I have little doubt that outside this group of virgins, the rest of the world will be swallowing a big UFO/alien deception. Jesus' letter to the 7 churches in Rev 2 & 3 are to New Testament churches founded by Paul and the Apostles, i.e. believers. A division or separation is clearly seen. The issue is worthiness, i.e. being an over comer. It is the difference between those spiritually minded and those carnal (worldly) minded. It all seems summarized, "If you love me, keep my commandments and I will come in and sup with you."
Groups of People in Revelations:
The number of the bride is found in Revelations 14:1-5. You can see she is a virgin (born new again), she is first fruits, she is redeemed from the earth and she sings a new song before the throne. Verses 1 & 3 says her number is 144,000. We first see her in Rev 5:9-10. Here she is seen by John around the throne before the seals are opened, she sings a new song and she is redeemed unto God by the blood of the lamb. She has been made kings and priest unto God and shall reign with Jesus on the earth (during the 1000 year kingdom). This is not the OT saints because this group is made up of every kindred, tongue, people and nation (the many colored coat of fruitful Joseph).
144 is also seen in the description of New Jerusalem, the home of the bride (Revelations 21:17). The number 12 is seen many times and it is the number of governmental perfection as the 12 tribes of Israel and the 12 apostles. 144 would be 12 X 12 and 144,000 an amplification. Personally, I do not know if this number (144,000) is symbolic, figurative or whether the bride might be some multiple or amplification of this like 144,000,000. If it is 144,000 since the time of Christ's ascension, then it is a very select group. You cannot deny that such a group would be perfection in government. We are talking about a group that is to be kings and priests and pillars in the kingdom. It is those most close to the throne of God, i.e. the highest in His global world government. These are said to follow the Lamb where ever He goes.
The only person that I know for a fact makes it is the apostle John, who was given a preview of the rapture in Revelations. I suspect all the apostles will except Judas Iscariot. Jesus told them they would rule over the 12 tribes as kings. Mathias was selected by the disciples to replace Judas. He was chosen over another by casting lots. It could be Paul, as Jesus met and converted him. The one thing you will notice about Paul in all his teachings and urgings: He new for a fact he was saved, but he never seemed to be sure that he was worthy to receive the prize he so desired, i.e. to be the bride. I think it was because of his past. He said we had to run a race. We had to work out or salvation. Paul said in a race only one could win. He is saying it is a select group, but he is urging all to run the race. If Paul wasn't sure or had any doubt, then I must surely sober up. Now, without a doubt I believe Jesus washed all the sins of his past away when Paul was converted, but Paul continues to say of himself, "I do that which I should not, and I do not that which I should do." It would seem he wrestles with the nature of his past just like we do. I do believe Paul may be the one who replaces Judas, but if not I sure believe he has won the prize he sought.
There is another group mentioned in Revelations chapter 4 around the throne where the bride is seen by John. John mentions the 24 elders. The name elders is one hint and the other is the fact they wear a golden crown on their head. Joseph was told by Jacob in his blessing that a crown would be placed upon his head because he lived separate from his brethren (Gen 49:26). These are the Old Testament Saints which were resurrected and ascended with Jesus. Again, this number may by symbolic or figurative. There might be more, but these are mentioned. 24 = 12 + 12 as does 144 = 12 X 12. I think this a number of ruling perfection as well and might represent the 12 apostles and 12 tribes/children of Jacob. I should think the Patriarchs to include Joseph, people like Moses, David, Hezekiah etc along with many or all the prophets would be among this group.
The tribulation saints are not seen around the throne until Rev 7:9-15. They are a multitude too great to number. The tribulation saints (the white horse of seal # 1) do a great job of conducting a world wide revival after the rapture of the bride. Despite the red, black and pale horses which follow bringing war, famine, rationing, pestilence and death to the world during the first 3.5 years, the white horse is a factor during this period. When the first beast (antichrist) comes to power, he establishes the mark to try to get control of the white horse. The tribulation saints all die by the end of the second 3.5 year period (Rev 6:9-11 and 20:4-6). They will be resurrected with the two witnesses (Rev 11:12) on a Pentecost Sunday exactly 7 years after the initial outpouring of the Holy Spirit. You will notice the two witnesses lay in the street dead 3.5 days. This means they died on a Wednesday day 4 afternoon same as did Jesus.
There is one other group mentioned in Revelations. It's number is also 144,000, made up of 12,000 of each of the 12 tribes of Israel. It too is perfection in government. These are mortal men sealed to protect them from the demons (Rev 9:4) of the 5th and 6th trumpets. This is during the last 3.5 years after the two witnesses and tribulation saints have departed. These mortal men are the remnant in Rev 11:13 which see the witnesses and tribulation saints ascend followed by a great earthquake. They are frightened, but give glory to God. I believe these men are the work of the two witnesses. They are led (by angels) to a place prepared and fed during the last 1260 days of the reign of the Second Beast. They are sealed and surely protected by angels from both demons and God's wrath. These will be the mortal government of the chief of nations, Israel. The scattered remnants of all the tribes and both houses of Jacob will be gathered together upon Jesus' return and given all the Promised Land. These will be their mortal government rulers. Yet, these are beneath the immortal global government of Jesus and His immortal saints.
I can see one possibility that the 144,000 is a symbolic or figurative number. It is in the amplification by a thousand (000). As 12 + 12 = 24 and 12 X 12 = 144 and the wall of New Jerusalem is measured 144 cubits, all representing perfection, then by amplifying it to 144,000 might mean it is a figurative or symbolic number.
Time Periods (Rapture and Seals):
Remember creation day 4 and its association with dividing and right to rule, also as signs in the calendar. As for the period of the seals I can only tell you the season and year in which the 3 each 3.5 year periods begin and end. The total time period of the seals is 10.5 years. The 3 periods are divided at the end of the 4th seal and end of the 4th trumpet. Both are points in which there is a change of rule. Actually, as far as God is concerned, the change of rule occurred at the end of the 4th day (4000 years) when Jesus died on the cross on a day 4 Wednesday. He ascended to the Father to get Himself a kingdom, the one He earned when He was crucified. Satan contests this and sends his antichrist and false prophet (Death and Hell) to take over at the end of the 4th seal, following the 4th horse. God sends His two witnesses during this middle 3.5 year period and Elijah will battle the antichrist as he did King Ahab. 3.5 years later Satan is thrown out of heaven in Revelations 10. He comes down and embodies the false prophet and takes over at the end of the 4th trumpet. He will kill the two witnesses on a day 4 Wednesday afternoon. His reign is ended when he is defeated by Jesus and His angels. Shortly thereafter Jesus will return with His immortal saints.
The seals open on Pentecost Sunday 2008 and 7 years later the middle 3.5 year period comes to a close with the resurrection and ascension of the two witnesses and tribulation saints on a Pentecost Sunday in the spring of 2015. In the middle of this 7 year period Death and Hell (two beasts/antichrist & false prophet) come to power at the end of the 4th seal following the 4th horse in the fall of 2011. The last 3.5 years begins when Satan embodies the 2nd beast and takes over at the end of the 4th trumpet in the spring of 2015. His reign is the time period of the Woes (5th, 6th & 7th trumpets). The 7th trumpet is the vials of God's wrath. Jesus and His angels will defeat the foe and then Jesus will return to earth with His saints and set up His government in the fall of 2018.
Timelines of the Rapture:
As for establishing the date of the midnight cry, I cannot do this. Someone else may be able. The events take place over a 2 week period beginning with a Friday evening/Saturday Sabbath day midnight cry and resurrection of the dead. Which date this falls on I am not sure. It will be a Second Passover midnight cry, but I can't determine which day First Passover falls on in order to do the computations. Second Passover is exactly 30 days after First Passover. The Resurrection, Ascension and Pentecost dates all require knowing the exact day of First Passover. We have the Pope saying Easter is in mid/late March and the Jewish religious leaders saying Passover is in mid/late April. By God's design they cannot be more than 3 days apart.
Man has been following men traditions to establish both these feast dates. Neither group has any loyalty to Jesus Christ and His return to be King. In fact, both groups seek their own earthly religious kingdom. I suspect the Christian community has been deceived concerning these traditions for establishing these dates for many centuries. Remember what I said about the # 4 (from day 4), it is about dividing and right to rule. Jesus and Satan are battling over right to rule as King and Lord. The Pope, Jewish and Muslim are in a battle over right to rule the religious realm. Jesus will emerge as King and Lord, High Priest & High Judge.
Without doubt, I believe God intended Passover Preparation day to fall on a Wednesday, day 4, throughout all its celebrations. The week and day of the week was set preeminent from Genesis chapter one. The lunar and solar calendar were designed by God not containing even weeks. This was surely a purposeful design. I think we have to adjust Passover celebration to make it fall on a Wednesday day 4. To follow God's rule about it being on Abib 14, then one would have to start each sacred year off based on making this happen. I think it is here that man's traditions are off the mark, whether through error or deception.
There can be no doubt the original Passover Preparation day was a Wednesday day 4 (Abib 14) and following suit Jesus died on the cross on a Wednesday day 4 Passover Preparation day (Abib 14). From creation, day 4 is about right to rule and dividing, as well as signs in the calendar. John 19: 14 & 31 tells us Jesus died on a Passover Preparation day and the day that followed was a High Sabbath, i.e. a Passover Feast day (a most holy Sabbath) and not a regular 7th day Sabbath. Following then Second Passover Preparation day had to be a Friday, the midnight cry that midnight and Second Passover celebration day a Friday evening/Saturday Sabbath day.
The week (from creation) and the day of the week are preeminent over the lunar and solar calendars. Days 1-4-7 are prominent and day 4 most preeminent. If we adjust (set) First Passover Preparation to a day 4 Wednesday, and Passover celebration day to a day 5 Thursday, then you will see that Second Passover celebration day falls exactly on the 4th Sabbath Omer of the 7 week Feast of Weeks.....as it should.....the cardinal mid point in the count of 7. This would set in motion a midnight cry on a Friday evening/Saturday Sabbath. It would be both a regular 7th day Sabbath and a High Sabbath Feast Day.....Keep the Sabbath holy???
(Note: The Feast of Weeks is about First Fruits of the Harvest. Passover begins it and Pentecost ends it. Second Passover sits perfectly in the middle falling exactly on the 4th Sabbath Omer. It is that 1-4-7 pattern of Creation Week and the Menorah. John sees Jesus in the midst (middle) of the 7 candles before the throne. Day 4 is associated with signs in the calendar, dividing and right to rule. It is for both the Son of Man and His bride.)
The 3 events of the Rapture of the Bride and their timeline:
Here you need to look at the rapture events of 1 Thes 4:13-17 & 1 Cor 15:51-52 and compare them with the events of Second Passover (duplicate of First Passover), the parable of the 10 virgins in Matthew 25 and Hezekiah's Second Passover celebration of 2 Chron 30. The 3 events of the rapture are: the midnight cry resurrection & ascension of the dead, the changing to immortal of the living wise bride and finally the ascension of the living bride. All the above scriptural passages match up perfectly when overlaid. Each of these events is separated by time, in fact 7 days.
The 7 + 7 time frame of Hezekiah's example will fall into place on the appropriate days just as in Jesus' day. The virgins are alerted by the midnight cry resurrection of the dead which will be on a Friday evening/Saturday Sabbath. The 7 day Feast of Unleavened bread (same as trimming lamps) would lead you to the "changing" of the living wise bride. It is here Hezekiah's group voted to extend their feast another 7 days (for joy and anticipation). Another 7 days would lead you to a Thursday evening ascension of the bride. Exactly 10 days later on Pentecost Sunday, just as the apostles, would be the Holy Spirit outpouring on the left behind tribulation saints. (Note Gen 24:55, Rebekah's family asked Abraham's servant to let her stay 10 more days. This was refused and Rebekah left.)
Without doubt, Ecclesiasties 1:9 is being played out to the day. What has been shall be, what has been done shall be done, there is nothing new under the sun.
The problem is due to the lunar calendar not matching as it should.....obviously planned by God and part of the reason He says we may be surprised. This leads me to say I am not sure the date. But, the day of the week I think scripture makes plain. The entry of the Israelites into the Promised Land 5 days prior to the 41st stripe of departure leads me to believe this rapture is somewhat close to the 41st stripe of the sign of the Fig Tree. But we must work in this 2 week period of events. I suspect mid to late May up to the first week in June. I concede the possibility of events kicking off in mid to late April.
The Seals of Revelations:
The seals of Revelations and the curse on Ephraim will begin after the rapture of the bride. Rev 2:10 tells us it is 10 years (actually 10.5). The white horse of Revelations will begin 10 days after the bride ascension on a Pentecost Sunday. It begins with the Holy Spirit outpouring. Every thing about Jesus' kingdom is white, i.e. white garments, white stone, white clouds, white horse, white throne, etc. They will lead a world wide revival. That's why they are a multitude too great to number (Rev 7:9-15). The red, black and pale horses are war, famine, rationing, pestilence and death. These catastrophes are orchestrated by the future beasts and their 10 horn allies to set the stage so that the nations will accept a world government. The world will be ready to listen to peace talks by the time the antichrist is ready to come to power. The tribulation saints are successful in their world revival but you can see in Rev 6:9-11 that many have already been killed and God is telling them the rest will die during the next 3.5 years of the rule of the antichrist.
The two beasts (Death & Hell, antichrist and false prophet) come to power at the end of the 4th seal, following the 4th horse (Rev 6:8). This will be in the fall of 2011 and 3.5 years after the rapture of the bride. It is here they sign the 7 year false peace treaty concerning Judah/Israel's lands (covenant of Daniel 9:27 and Isaiah 28: 15 & 18). The two witnesses appear about this same time. Elijah will battle the antichrist as he did with King Ahab and Jezebel. The antichrist needs to deal with this white horse revival and so he establishes the mark and tells everyone they must worship the beast. Not doing so is under penalty of death. Angels preach (Rev 14:6-11). They preach the gospel and warn everyone not to take the mark or they will receive eternal damnation and be tormented forever (Rev 14:9-11). This is why Jesus warns us our names can be erased from the book of life (Rev 3:5). One must endure and keep the faith until the end, even death. Taking the mark or worshiping the beast is a breach and finale in turning from faith. This middle time period of 3.5 years is a royal battle ground for right to rule.
Satan is thrown out of heaven in Rev 10. He comes down and embodies the false prophet (Hell). He takes over at the end of the 4th trumpet and begins the period of Woes (5th, 6th and 7th trumpets). This will be in the spring of 2015. The great and final battle between Jesus and Satan announced in Rev 10 is now on. The words said between the voice of 7 trumpets and Satan are so hot they are sealed. An angel announces time should be no more and the mystery of God should be finished. The final battle and conclusion for right to rule will be settled in this last 3.5 year period.
The Second Beast kills the two witnesses and the tribulation saints are resurrected with them (Rev 11). This resurrection/ascension will be on Pentecost Sunday, 2015. The remnant of mortal men sealed of the tribes of Israel are carried to a place prepared (Rev 12:6) where they will be guarded and fed. They are sealed and protected from the demons of the 5th and 6th trumpets (Rev 9:4) and later from God's wrath. This time period is 1260 days (3.5 years). The Second Beast then subdues (makes fall) 3 kings (horns). This is found in Daniel 7: 20 & 24. I suspect some treachery among these men as they are all power seekers and jealous. This is about the time that the fiery destruction is to take place on Ephraim following her 7 year curse. I suspect these 3 kings/horns are associated with the NAU and possibly some other allies.
To make the battle between God and Satan more fair, God lets Satan have his most fierce, bad and capable demon allies out of their chains in hell, where they have been since the flood (5th and 6th trumpets). This is as close to fair as it gets. It is time for the final fight. The 7 vials of the 7th trumpet are God's wrath (Rev 16:1). Jesus and His angels will defeat the foe sometime late summer of 2018 (this could be earlier, even as much as 7 months). Jesus will return with His saints to set up their immortal world government in the fall of 2018. My guess is He will return at the feast of Trumpets. It would seem fitting for a royal and triumphant entry.
That is the best I can do on a timeline. It is close enough for me. We use to say in the army, close enough for government work. Maybe, someone can guess the right Friday evening/Saturday midnight cry and resurrection of the dead. I am content. I think the resolution of the lunar calendar and man's (Jewish & Christian) traditions in establishing these feast are highly suspect. I think that is the reason Jesus said we might be surprised and might not know the day. We might not know the exact day or exact hour, but I will not be surprised. The time frames are narrow enough not to be caught sleeping.
Let's work on being worthy. It took Hezekiah a while to clean the temple. I can testify it is not easy. It is work. Joyous and profitable work yes, but it is serious work.
Your friend,
Steve