Gino (25  June 2017)
"The word of God forever in heaven"


  
My brother had written to me the following:

Various preachers preach & teach about 'many gospels' and only one being the Gospel of the grace of God (which believers today in the body of Christ have received).  In Hebrews 4 first few verses it tells of the Old Testament Jews and says "unto them was the gospel preached as well as unto us."  Chew on that for a bit and get back with me.

So, I responded with the following:

Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

("the scripture", the written word of God, not the audible word of God spoken to Abraham, and not the oral tradition passed down from Noah and Shem, or what would eventually become the scripture hundreds of years later - but "the scripture" preached the gospel unto Abraham, and the word "before" is interesting, "before" the cross, "before" the law, and before the first book that Moses wrote down)

Psalm 119:89 For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.

(It appears that the eternal LORD has his written word with him in eternity. Like when Moses built after the pattern shown him in the mount, the pattern of what was already in heaven, so when he wrote down what the LORD told him, was it also exactly according to the pattern of the written word that the LORD has with him in eternity? Did Abraham get a peek in that book?)

Genesis 15:1 After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward.

(a vision is seen, and what did he see? It says "the word of the LORD". Maybe that's how he knew about that city:)

Hebrews 11:10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.
16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

(Did Abraham get a peek at Revelation 21 & 22?)

Hebrews 11:24 By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter;
 25 Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; 
 26 Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward.

(Did Moses get a peek at Isaiah 53? Is that how he knew about "the reproach of Christ"?)
(How did Moses know of the "reproach of Christ", unless perchance he also got a peek in the book, and maybe saw Isaiah 53 and Psalm 22?)

(Also, the pattern:)

I Chronicles 28:11 Then David gave to Solomon his son the pattern of the porch, and of the houses thereof, and of the treasuries thereof, and of the upper chambers thereof, and of the inner parlours thereof, and of the place of the mercy seat, 28:12And the pattern of all that he had by the spirit, of the courts of the house of the LORD, and of all the chambers round about, of the treasuries of the house of God, and of the treasuries of the dedicated things:

(But then he explained what that pattern was:)

I Chronicles 28:19 All this, said David, the LORD made me understand in writing by his hand upon me, even all the works of this pattern. 

(The pattern was a written pattern, not a drawn one like a blueprint. So where is the written pattern of the temple found?
In I Kings 5 - 8 and II Chronicles 2 - 5. Perhaps that's what David got a peek at, from the book in heaven,
"in writing by his hand", written initially by the LORD.
So could the same thing have happened to Moses? What if the pattern of the tabernacle, shown to him on the mount, was also a written pattern, instead of a drawing? Where is the written pattern of the tabernacle found?
Exodus 25 - 31 and 35 - 40. Is it possible that Moses got a peek at those chapters in Exodus, in book that the LORD has, before Moses wrote the same chapters down, here on earth?)

My Brother responded:
"He may have been shown the heavenly written Word, or shown a vision where the eternal Word was visible (or even audible at the same time), or he could have been 'introduced'  to the mind of God at which time he would have seen/heard/and understood the essence of God's eternal Word.  We in our sinful state may not be privileged to know how these things occurred (in a glass darkly, as it were.)"

(Then Daniel: the angel showed him that which was noted in the "scripture of truth", already written down, about what was going to happen soon with the kings of Persia and Greece. Where in the scriptures is that written down? In the book of Daniel. Did Daniel get a peek in the book of Daniel in the LORD's book which he has in heaven, before Daniel actually penned that book down, here on earth?)

Daniel 10:20 Then said he, Knowest thou wherefore I come unto thee? and now will I return to fight with the prince of Persia: and when I am gone forth, lo, the prince of Grecia shall come.
 21 But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.

Daniel 11:1 Also I in the first year of Darius the Mede, even I, stood to confirm and to strengthen him.
 2 And now will I shew thee the truth. Behold, there shall stand up yet three kings in Persia; and the fourth shall be far richer than they all: and by his strength through his riches he shall stir up all against the realm of Grecia.

(then there were the "books", plural, that Daniel saw:)

Daniel 9:2 In the first year of his reign I Daniel understood by books the number of the years, whereof the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah the prophet, that he would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem. 

(At that time, only the book of Jeremiah mentioned the 70 years for the captivity. Later it would be written about in I Chronicles, Zechariah, and Daniel. So, since Daniel said books, did he get a peek at those three books which were not on earth yet at that time, in addition to the book of Jeremiah which was already on earth?)

(Yeah, I agree with what you wrote, about how it was actually communicated to them, can't tell for certainty, however it's clear there is an eternal word of God, that our earthly books are apparently a copy of that one, given to the writers by inspiration.)
 
Then the reply was:
'The "Word" existed for eternity before  and God our creator purposed- and this is the great part - that the Word became flesh and lived among us. Purposed as a sacrificial lamb is why we can cry "Abba-Father"
Psalm 56:10  "In God will I praise his word: in the LORD will I praise his word." '

No one in the scriptures ever accused David of bibliolatry for writing what you quoted.

"Nor God when He said that He exalted His Word above even His own name!  Yes, even above that sacred tetragramaton!"

Amen about Psalm 138:2
It is clearly a correct form of adoration, to even praise the LORD's word.
And like you pointed out, also praising the Word made flesh!

"'deep', but I wonder if we have even begun to scratch the surface."