Eliane B (10
"To dfhat - Re: Wheat,wine
In response to http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2011/dfhat69.htm
The prophecy mentions wheat, new wine and oil. It does’t say or
necessarily imply “new oil”.
New wine refers to the latest harvest of grapes and cannot apply to
grapes harvest in the previous year. I think we are all OK with that
understanding. Otherwise the word “new” would not have been used.
The word “wheat” is mentioned without the adjective “new” because this
understanding is implicit since all offerings (in the procedure of the
Feasts) had to be made using the seeds that were planted in the
beginning of the Spring of that same religious year (which begin in the
month of Abib or Nisan). On Firstfruits, the seeds of barley that had
already begun to mature were presented in a wave sheaf to the
Father (Heaven), lifted UP by the High Priest. Prophetically, this
gesture prefigured the ascension of the first group (sheaf of barley)
to be taken to the Father after Jesus’s resurrection.
Accordingly, the grains used to bake Pentecost loaves of bread must
also proceed from the seeds planted in the beginning of Spring (wheat
that only matures in the summer), not from the seeds planted in winter
or autumn (which mature in the spring). There are many passages in the
Old Testament confirming this.
So we have seen that the wine mentioned in the Prophecy must be new
wine, and there’s no new wine in Spring. We have also seen that all
grains lifted UP to the Father (either in the form of wave sheaf on
Firstfruits or in the form of a loaf of bread on Pentecost) must come
from the seed planted in the beginning of the Spring season – they must
be new grain.
By the way, many people say that the Feast of Pentecost has already
been 100% fulfilled, which I think is not correct. Partial fulfillments
have taken place, of course. But I think that the final fulfillment
will have to do with something being lifted UP to the Father, by the
High Priest. Both Firstfruits and Pentecost had offerings lifted UP and
waved to the Father.
Now I ask: if after His death and resurrection, Jesus went to Heaven
(taking the other saints He resurrected and took with Him) exactly on
Firstfruits, wouldn’t it be reasonable to suppose that the Rapture of
the Church would be a perfect fulfillment the lifting of loaves of
bread UP to the Father? Don’t ask me why there are two loaves of bread
(note that they must be leavened) because I don’t know. What I know is
that they represent a pair of something. But I don’t know if they are a
figure of “believing Jews + believing Gentiles” or “dead in Christ
after being risen + those who are alive in Christ” who are raptured
together, or simply a figure of a couple going to a wedding (a pair).
We will certainly find out about that later. But Pentecost is certainly
a day to expect the Rapture of the Church, because SOMETHING must be
lifted UP to the Father on that Feast, and that hasn’t been fulfilled
One could mention that the ascension of the Two Witnesses (in
Revelation) would also be a reasonable fulfillment of that type and
shadow (because they are two), and I could not argue against that
understanding. But I think that what will be LIFTED UP on Pentecost
will be the Church.
Concerning the oil, as far as I know, there’s no place in the
scriptures that says that oil stored in the vats must only be “new
oil”. So if the oil from the pressed olives from the previous harvest
is stored in the same place as the new wine and the just harvested
grains of wheat (both of which are not mature in the Spring), that
doesn’t seem to be any contradiction to me. In the case of oil, what I
see there is a picture of abundance of the Holy Spirit and not
necessarily the need of the olive harvest at the same time. By the way,
olive trees are not planted every year. The tree is there from long
before. I learned that there is an olive tree in Portugal which is
2.000 years old, in a Algarve. So the issue of olive is different from
the issue of wheat and grapes.
Thanks for your comment.
Eliane, in Brazil