Cindy Busch's posts (comments about July 21 and not July 23)

I read your posts with interest. Thank you for showing us that Peter's speech might be mentioning a scripture passage that could also have been fulfilled during those days (I mean a possible total solar eclipse).

Regarding the coincidence about the eclipses happenning on the same dates on the Gregorian calendar, I also think that that's a remarkable coincidence, but anyway I think we shouldn't pay much attention to the Gregorian calendar. I would very much like to get to know which were the Jewish calendar equivalents for those dates. I couldn't figure that out, because the Gregorian calendar didn't exist at that time.

The third issue that we must investigate deeper is if the Gregogian year of 26 was really the year Jesus was crucified. I can't comment about that, because there is no proof. It is possible. I just don't know.

I'm not writing this post to criticize you. Please continue to read. I loved to read your posts and I appreciate your investigation. I'm just trying do be careful so that we don't come to any conclusion without sufficient evidence.

The main reason I'm writing this is because I didn't understand why you picked July 23rd for the dah of Pentecost at that time and even for this year. Why not July 22, or July 21? This is a confusing issue to me. Maybe you chose July 23 because you made a picture of the eclipse having happened on the day before Peter's speech and then you imagined that Pentecost would be the following day (July 23).

Supposing the there was really a total solar eclipse that very year (crucifixion year) around the day of Pentecost and that Peter was referring to an astromical sign that was happening at that season, I don't think that he had to refer to it as something past (the day before) - which might explain why you chose July 23 (the following day after the total solar eclipse) for Pentecost that year. If Peter was referring to a total solar eclipse happening that very week (some days before, the day of the eclipse itself of some days after), his mentioning of that part of the prophecy would also correspond and be valid the same way.

Why I am writing this? Because the according to the Lunar Sabbath theory (which I cannot discredit) Pentecost always falls on the 29th day of the 4th Hebrew month, which is always one day before the "no moon day" (the 30th day of the 4th month). Total solar eclipses always can ONLY occur on new moon days (note: what we call "new moon day" nowadays is equivalent to "no moon" day in Scriptures. In Scriptures, "new moon" is something different - it's equivalent to the day the first light of the new phase of the moon appears.)

It's interesting to mention that it was Cindy Busch herself who presented us the Lunar Sabbath summer Pentecost possibility, last year. (see her post here: http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2008/cindyb618-1.htm )

I don't know if the Lunar Sabbath theory is right, but they present many compelling evidences. I have studied another website with many good articles about Pentecost being on the 29th day of the fourth Hebrew month, and I was impressed to see how many evidences they show. If anyone wants to study those articles, see here:

Article "A Three Witness Calendar that proves that Pentecost is summer, not in the spring": http://www.creationcalendar.com/CalendarIssue/3WitnessCalendarCount.pdf

Even before our regular Pentecost watch began (for May 29 and May 31 this year), I had'n discarded the Lunar Pentecost possibility. It's very interesting to read those articles in an open mind. It's possible that the present Jewish Sabbath calculation is wrong (having been changed by Hilel II to coincide with the Saturday of the Roman calendar). I don't know but I'm watching.

The point is: in their theory, whatever be the year (eclipse year or not), Pentecost always falls on the eve of a "no moon day". Josephus also wrote about Pentecost happening shortly before the new moon day.

Using these evidences, and supposing for a minute that the year of crucifixion was 26 A.D. and that Peter was referring to an eclipse happening that very week (just before or to taking right after his speech, which doesn't make any difference), my point is that Pentecost could never have happened AFTER the the total solar eclipse.

Let me explain better: the total solar eclipse HAS to occur on a "no moon" day (this is an astronomy statement). According to the Lunar Sabbath theory, the "no moon" date is ALWAYS in the eve of the first day of the Hebrew subsequent month.(which in that case would be the 1st of the 5th month - Av). So if there was a total solar eclipse, that COULD NOT have been on the first day of the 5th month, but on the 30th of the 4th Hebrew month (which they now call "Tammuz") - and this statement is valid for the regular Hebrew calendar and has nothing to do with the Lunar Sabbath theory.

Now, if the Lunar Sabbath theory Pentecost is on the 29th of Tammuz, then it happened on the day BEFORE the total solar eclipse, not the day following it.

So I think we should pay attention to July 21st (the Lunar Sabbath theory Pentecost, on the 29th day of the 4th month), which precedes the NO MOON day, which, in the year of 2009 will be July 22nd, having a total solar eclipse.

I hope my explanation for Pentecost not happening on July 23rd this year is clear. July 23 is a new moon day (a new month, with the first light of the moon already appearing).

Another very interesting explanation I find is that people thought that Peter and his disciples were drunk (see Acts) with the new wine (wine made of grapes just haversted). We must pay attention that there was no new wine in the month of Sivan (3rd month). The grapes were only harvested in end of the 4th month (which they later named Tammuz, a name originated in the Babylonian exile). That could be another clue.

My conclusion is: I believe that the first Rapture has to happen on a Pentecost. Maybe the true Pentecost is not 50 days after the Feast of Firsfruits, but 50 days after the 7 complete (Lunar) Sabbaths counted after the Feast of Firsffruits, which puts Pentecost on the 29th day of the 4th month. I'm not saying that the Rapture will necessarily happen this year (2009), but if it does, it will be one day before the total solar eclipse.