Dear Doves, Below is a progressive revelation the Lord has been giving me starting with a dream I had in 1996 right before the Fall U.S. Presidential Election. I have posted the dream before on the doves.When Miriam posted yesterday on Venus and the Pool of Siloam, I took it as a sign from the Lord to share it here. (If it seems broken up, it is because I am taking it from another forum in which I have already posted it. It seems that more and more has been coming to me concerning John chapter 5 and the healing of the "certain man with an infirmity who was 38 years old." Mary HansenMore on 2005!
Two things stood out to me when I read this. First, (you history buffs might be able to help me here.) Isn't this EXACTLY 37 YEARS TO THE DAY! WHEN ISRAEL DECLARED VICTORY IN THE SIX DAY WAR OF 1967???Second, immediately the Lord brought to mind the passage of Scripture from John chapter 5. I watched a video some years back from Day of Discovery that had to do with the Jewish feasts. The speaker said that most bible scholars believe that John 5 has to do with Israel and Rosh ha Shanah.
Let me explain.
Jn 5:1 "After this there was a feast of the Jews, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.
Now there is in Jerusalem by the Sheep Gate a pool, which is called in Hebrew, Bethesda, having five porches.
In these lay a great multitude of sick people, blind, lame, paralyzed, waiting for the moving of the water.
For an angel went down at a certain time into the pool and stirred up the water; then whoever stepped in first, after the stirring of the water, was made well of whatever disease he had.
Now a certain man was there who had an infirmity thirty-eight years."The man went on to say that Bible Scolars believe the man with the infirmity represented the nation of Israel and that the feast that was being kept is Rosh ha Shanah.
As one looks down further in this chapter, this theme seems to be true.
John 5:21
"For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will.
"For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son,
"That all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.
"Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlsasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.
"Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live.
For as the Father has life in HImself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself,
and has given Him authoriity to execute judgement also, because He is the Son of Man.
Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice
and come forth - those wh have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those wh have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation." John 5:21-29Well, now this really peaked my interest. For I had received a dream back in the fall of 1996, in which I heard a voice say, "By 2005, America will cease to be a nation."
Out of curriosity, I decided to do a little "figuring". I took the date 1967 - when Israel recaptured Jerusalem in the Six-day war and added the "38" years of the man in John 5. It came up to the date that the "voice" had spoken in my dream in 1996, which is "2005"!!!
Now, I see this in today's Jerusalem Newswire!! What does it mean?? Well, possibly ? it means that John 5's "certain man with the infirmity for 38 years is indeed National Israel. After that 38th year, Jesus healed the man!!!
Friends, if this interpretation is correct, then it means that we have within ONE YEAR (tops) before God begins to "raise up National Israel"!!!!!
Keep looking up! Our redemption is surely nigh!!
Blessings to all,
Mary
JNW News
37 years after victory, Israel decides to retreat
By Jerusalem Newswire Editorial Staff
June 6, 2004Jerusalem (jnewswire.com) - Thirty-seven years after regaining control over key areas of its biblical patrimony in the 1967 Six Day War, Israel's cabinet Sunday decided the time had come to abandon the Gaza Strip and northern Samaria and uproot the Jews living there.
Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's "disengagement" plan ran up against a wall of political chaos Sunday, but by the end of the day a compromise version of the retreat blueprint had garnered the support of 14 out of 21 cabinet ministers.
Several key Likud ministers who had originally opposed the plan said they voted in favor because the compromise reached did not include a firm decision to actually dismantle settlements.
But the key component remained the government's intent to ethnically cleanse Gaza and Samaria of their Jews - a point which Sharon made perfectly clear just hours after the vote.
Whether ministers Binyamin Netanyahu, Silvan Shalom and Limor Livnat realize it or not, "the government decided today that by the end of 2005 Israel will leave Gaza and four settlements [in northern Samaria]," Sharon said.
Housing Minister Effi Eitam said the decision had doomed thousands of Jews to expulsion from their homes, and would lead to the establishment of a Hamas mini-state on "a platter of Jewish blood."
Retreat approved
Sharon's plan to ethnically cleanse the Gaza Strip and northern Samaria of their Jews in an effort to appease Israel's Arab enemies and Western "allies" was approved by a 14-7 cabinet vote Sunday evening.
The comfortable margin of victory was made possible by a last minute compromise reached between the prime minister and three senior Likud ministers who say they oppose unilateral withdrawal.
According to the wording of the compromise plan, the government means to evacuate the Jewish communities of Gaza by the end of 2005, though a March 2005 cabinet vote must first ratify the decision.
In the meantime, those settlements slated for removal will continue to receive basic funding.
Housing Minister Effi Eitam told Channel One News the decision had doomed thousands of Jews to expulsion from their homes, and would lead to the creation of a Hamas-ruled mini-state on "a platter of Jewish blood."
Likud ministers fold
Finance Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom and Education Minister Limor Livnat said they decided to vote in favor of the compromise version of the plan because it did not explicitly mandate the removal of any settlements.
But, while the approved plan only mentions the government's "intention" to uproot the Jews of Gaza and Samaria, Sharon told a gathering of birthright participants following the vote that the meaning is clear.
"Disengagement is getting underway. The government decided today that by the end of 2005 Israel will leave Gaza and four settlements [in Samaria]," he said.
Their last minute submission to Sharon was seen by many as a political maneuver aimed at securing their jobs should the opposition Labor Party join the coalition.
Chaotic day
Prior to being approved, Sharon's plan ran up against a wall of political chaos Sunday.
In a move many in Israel blasted as draconian, Sharon on Friday moved to ensure he would have a cabinet majority for his plan by firing right-wing ministers Benny Elon and Avigdor Lieberman.
On Sunday, several petitions were filed with Israel's High Court over the legality of the sudden dismissals, though all were later rejected after the government rebuffed a court proposal that it postpone its vote on Sharon's plan until Tuesday.
Ministers of the secularist Shinui Party then walked out of the cabinet discussion after it became apparent the compromise Sharon had reached with Netanyahu, Shalom and Livnat did not include a start date for the demolition of Jewish homes.
Later, Netanyahu, Shalom and Livnat walked out in protest over the inclusion of the letters exchanged between Sharon and US President George W. Bush in the overall package.
The letter Sharon gave to Bush last month promises the removal of Jewish Gaza by the end of 2005.
All the while, ministers of the National Religious Party (NRP) were left to debate whether or not they would bolt the coalition in light of the newly approved policies.
End of the Sharon regime?
The NRP's exit from the coalition would leave Sharon with a minority government consisting of 55 Knesset Members.
NRP chief Effi Eitam was strongly in favor such a move, while the party's number two man, Zevulun Orlev, argued in favor of remaining in the coalition until the government actually began dismantling settlements.
With a minority of MKs backing the government, Sharon would be in danger of losing a no-confidence vote, unless the opposition Labor Party offers him a safety net.
But commentators expected Labor to renege on that promise after Sharon pushed through what it sees as a "watered-down" version of the retreat plan.
If Sharon's government falls, either the nation will move to early elections, or another MK, such as Netanyahu, would be chosen and given an opportunity to form an alternative coalition.
Meanwhile, Likud Central Committee members told Arutz 7 Sunday they were putting into action a plan to have Sharon dismissed from the party.
© 2002-2003 Jerusalem Newswire
*********************** BUMP!
Hi Everyone,
THE HOLY SPIRIT revealed more to me today. FIRST, of all, let me say that I didn't realize that yesterday was JUNE 12,2004 (exactly 3 years after) I heard the prophetic warning back in June of 2001. I have shared this on two other threads in this forum, so for time's sake you will have to go back and read them.I do not share "every day" the experience that I went through back in June of 2001. Why? did I yesterday??? I believe (since it was unrealized to me until today) that the Lord is trying to draw our attention to the EARLY PART OF JUNE. Let me explain:
There was a collapse of a WEDDING HALL in JERUSALEM on May 21, 2001. This resulted in one of the largest civil disasters in Jerusalem ever with many dead and injured. I remember feeling so shocked and appalled by it. About this time, I was reading a book by John McTernan called, "God's Final Warning to America". I began to go into deep travail for America when God gave me Jeremiah 14 and 15. One day (just doing ordinary routine things around my home), I began to CONTEMPLATE on THREE THINGS: They were #1 The Goodness/ and Love of My Saviour #2 The trials I had been going through #3 The book I had just finished reading. This "CONTEMPLATION" took place AFTER THE COLLAPSE OF THE WEDDING HALL IN JERUSALEM.
The Lord told me that I was being "judged". He reminded me of the chastening/discipline that brings restoration in Heb. 12. Then He said, "But it is nothing like the "judgement" that is coming upon a sinful and rebellious nation (America)." As I felt God's Presence, I waited on Him. He went on to say (to my spirit), "I am doing a shaking." (Heb. 12)....."to see what foundation My people are built upon. The wise man built his house upon a rock." (Lu 6:46-49)
I took it as a personal word for me. UNTIL......I got onto FIVEDOVES to check out the latest news a few days after I received it. On the FIVEDOVES SITE there was a Prophetic interpretation of the Jerusalem Wedding Hall Collapse and its symbolism for the church given by Frank Molver. A woman who had been to a prohetic conference in Indiana in 1996 had actually had a disturbing vision while praying of a 3-story building collapsing while people were dancing at what looked like a wedding reception. She prayed that day that God would strengthen the foundation of that building.
She shared her story in that post dated JUNE 6, 2001. (REMEMBER THAT DATE), and another brother in the Lord gave his interpretation also. The interpretation he gave had the SAME EXACT SCRIPTURES THAT GOD HAD GIVEN ME A FEW DAYS EARLIER!! This got my attention!
I attempted to give this message in our local church on JUNE 10, 2001. The pastor took the paper I had had it prepared on and said he would read it. On JUNE 12, 2001, was when I awoke at 5:00 am to the sound of A LOUD SHOFAR BLOWING. It was so LOUD and REAL that I THOUGHT i was hearing it with my NATURAL PHYSICAL EARS, but I soon discovered when my husband had NOT heard it, I had heard it in my SPIRIT. That day we had 13 tornadoes touch down around the whole area of our community. What was so strange about this??? Well, because our community is in a valley between two higher elevated regions, the NWS had missed the outbreak coming and FAILED TO GIVE THE COMMUNITY WARNING THAT DAY!!! The Civil Defense sirens sounded all over town that afternoon. I took that as a word from the Lord that He wanted this message delivered. I attempted to deliver it again at the June 13, Wednesday night service, to which it was denied again.
Exactly 3 months later the tragic events of 9/11 happened in NYC. Was the Lord trying to warn me and the other Believers in our community?? I believer He was.NOW.... FAST FORWARD. Last Sunday, June 6, the Lord brought the above article from Jerusalem Newswire to my attention. The title of it is "After 37 years, Israel is Retreating." This reminded me of a different revelation from the Lord from a dream I had back in 1996. This was revealed to me on JUNE 6, 2004 on the THREE YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE CONFIRMATION LETTER OF THE DOVES IN 2001! Could this all be coinicidence? I don't think so.
THis morning, God brought to my attention that I had SHARED AGAIN my experience on JUNE 12, 2001, but that I had shared it YESTERDAY, (on this forum) which was JUNE 12,2004!!!! (I had not realized it until today, Sunday, June 13) Then He further brought to my attention that the original confirmation of the interpretation of the wedding hall collapse in Jerusalem was a FIVEDOVES post DATED JUNE 6, 2001.
June 6, 2001- June 6,2004 is THREE YEARS. NOW, look at the parable that Jesus gave in Luke 13.This parable is speaking of REPENTANCE and a FIG TREE. We know that many times in SCRIPTURE a FIG TREE represented National ISRAEL. In the parable, Jesus mentions a TIME FRAME in which the owner of the vineyard came SEEKING FRUIT. THe time frame is THREE YEARS. The dresser of the vineyard asks the owner why it should "cumbereth it the ground?" He advises to "cut it down". The vineyard owner then says, "Let it alone this year also, till I shall dig it around, and dung it; AND IF IT BEAR FRUIT, WELL, AND IF NOT, THEN after that thou shalt cut it down."
Could (?) June 6
(the anniversary of the beginning of the Six day war in which Israel FAILED to take the Temple Mount) and in particular the anniversary in 2001, when this Jerusalem Wedding Hall collapsed be the FIRST YEAR IN THE THREE YEAR COUNTDOWN, with the LAST YEAR being THE YEAR that it was left to be fertilized and dug around from JUNE 6, 2004 (when Israel passed the Resolution on the Gaza Withdrawal) until JUNE 6,2005 (when National Israel will become that 38 year old man that Jesus healed in John chapter 5, coming of "age")??This seems awful strange folks (to me) that there is so many "coincidences" in these dates. I will leave it here for you to take it to prayer and consider it. Time will tell in any respect. ****************** I found the following story on upway.com/weekend. This is part of this same post on 2005. Let's See
We have the Gaza settlers pullout slated for Sept 1, (when they will be forcibly removed, and up 4 months from original "end of Dec" date that Sharon first gave).
p203.ezboard.com/fherbsdi...=400.topic
We have the Oct. 2-October 25 Synod of Catholic Bishops to determine how to make the ecumenical community aware of the presence of Christ in the Eucharist. (2005) www.zenit.org/english/vis...?sid=55110
Also I read somewhere that this North American Free Trade Zone is to be completed in 2005.
Now, This morning, I found this!!
'WorldPride' To Hold Homosexual Rally In Jerusalem
www.townhall.com/news/pol...609b.shtml
'WorldPride' To Hold Homosexual Rally In Jerusalem - Mayor Objects
Jerusalem Mayor Says 'WorldPride' Will Provoke the Holy CityJerusalem (CNSNews.com) - Jerusalem's Mayor Uri Lupolianski opposes the idea of holding an international homosexual rally in his city next year because he said it would provoke the city's residents.
InterPride, the International Association of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgendered Pride Coordinators, chose Jerusalem -- sacred to Jews, Christians and Muslims -- as the location of WorldPride 2005, an international LGBT event scheduled for next August.
It would be the second WorldPride event ever. The first, held in Rome in 2000 during the Vatican's jubiliee year, drew homosexuals from around the world.
Lupolianski, Jerusalem's first Orthodox Jewish mayor, would like to stop the event from taking place.
"The mayor of Jerusalem, Uri Lupolianski, is against holding the WorldPride event in Jerusalem," Jerusalem Municipality spokesman Giddy Schmerling said in a written response to a query from CNSNews.com.
"This is due to fear that religious and conservative groups will view the event as a provocation and that the parade will instigate massive protests," Schmerling said.
However, Schmerling did not say if the mayor was taking any action to try to prevent the event from taking place.
The Jerusalem homosexual community held its third annual parade in the city last week, to Lupolianski's chagrin. So far, the parades have not drawn massive protests.
"This is a horrible parade. It is not only ugly; it's also a provocation," Lupolianski said in a radio interview last week. "It's not appropriate for the city, and it offends the sensibilities of its residents. Even people distant from Jerusalem must grasp that this is a sacred city for the Jewish people and the world as a whole."
Lupolianski said that Jerusalem was a "Holy City" at "its very essence" and therefore should not hold such a public display.
"There is a difference between everyone dancing his own dance as usual, and having a parade, which is an attempt to jump up and stomp on the toes of the general public," he said. He added that if he could have stopped the parade legally he would have.
Hagai El-Ad, director of the Jerusalem Open House, the LGBT center in the city, said attempts to stop the parade had failed, just as any "similar attempts in the future will."
Only a handful of religious Jews protested last week's parade. Many Jerusalemites have expressed their opposition to holding such events in their city but most have chosen simply to ignore them.
Jonathan Rosenblum, director of Am Echad, an Orthodox Jewish media organization, said that for the most part religious Jews feel that large demonstrations don't accomplish anything.
Earlier, former Tourism Minister Benny Elon said he would not invest money in the WorldPride event because it would not help tourism and might even offend tourists who come to the "center of the Holy Land.""
Revelation 11
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.********************** And Finally this post I found today at the same site.
I just tuned into the radio contact below, where it was reported, that Prime Minister Sharon said that the last settlement will be vacated by the ninth of Av--of 2005. I wonder if he knew what he was saying.
9th of Av
Author: Zion Gene
Posted: 06/14/04 Mon Jun 14 13:58:36 2004Want to send Instant Message to Zion Gene?
Enter your Wedgid:In bible and Jewish history, the 9th of Av was the day when the ten spies, in the time of Moses, made the statement that Israel should NOT attempt to possess the Promised Land; it was the very day when both the Temple of Solomon in 587/586, and the Temple of Herod at the beginning of this era were destroyed. It also was the day of the year when the decree to expell all Jews from Spain in 1492 was put into effect. What a time to be living! Also, how eerie it is for men to be unwittingly declaring the calendar of God.
www.israelnn.com/tv.php ************************* In conclusion, it looks like National Israel may be this 38 year old man in John Chapter 5. Based on the Revelation that God gave me from this Day of Discovery video and my dream in the fall of 1996, National Israel will be coming of age around June 6,2005 on the anniversary of the beginning of the Six Day war. That, dear friends, means our meeting the Lord in the clouds is very, very close. In Christ,
Mary Hansen