Barry Amundsen (15 July 2013)
"KML and John B regarding Edom and "say they are Jews but are not""
Your post(s) about Edom and Te'man and the judgment yet to come when Jesus shows up to fulfill prophecies concerning them is interesting and it reminded me of something God tells Ezra in 2 Esdras. He says that this current world system is Esau and the one to come is Jacob. That as Jacob was clutching Esau's heel, it was to show that the next world system will immediately begin when this one is destroyed and that is when the meek will inherit the earth.
2 Esdras 6:
5 - and before the present years were reckoned; and before the imaginations of those who now sin were estranged, and before those who stored up treasures of faith were sealed --
6 - then I planned these things, and they were made through me and not through another, just as the end shall come through me and not through another."
7 - And I answered and said, "What will be the dividing of the times? Or when will be the end of the first age and the beginning of the age that follows?"
8 - He said to me, "From Abraham to Isaac, because from him were born Jacob and Esau, for Jacob's hand held Esau's heel from the beginning.
9 - For Esau is the end of this age, and Jacob is the beginning of the age that follows.
10 - For the beginning of a man is his hand, and the end of a man is his heel; between the heel and the hand seek for nothing else, Ezra!"
Basically I think the whole Jacob / Esau struggle has been, like so much of scripture, kind of a giant 3D living allegory of things bigger than just their own story. I also would suggest that when Jesus refers to those who say they are Jews and are not but do lie and are actually of the synagogue of Satan, that He is referring in some way to the "Illuminati" or "Rothschilds" and their like, who actually claim to be Jews but are not and are of Satan. These same ones who run this current world system and who hate God and God's people and always have, right on back to Mr. Tower of Babel himself, Nimrod "Let us rebel".
So your subject is right on but if you back the scope out and view it on a bigger scale, I think you will see that Edom represents not merely the race as being of Esau only but extends to all who are ungodly and have sided with Satan against God in the final showdown over planet earth. What Esau / Edom did to Israel is a picture of what all evil is doing to all God's people down through earth's history.
I can't wait for the good age to start, I'm so tired of this one!