Mike W (30
July 2012)
"respond JB Sikes"
Thank you for responding.
I appreciate what you have said. But please understand I truly
believe the Holy Spirit is alive and powerful. He draws a person
to Christ. He can heal a person. He is sealed inside each
believer.
I believe God has not changed and that he is the same yesterday,
today, and tomorrow.
But I see from the Bible that he DOES change the way he deals
with the human race.I think you will agree that we no longer
have to offer up animal sacrifices or go to the priest.Remember
the Bible says the Jews require a sign. The sign gifts were
temporary and the perfection that was to come is the completion
of God's Word.
As you seen from the letter I wrote the verses that back what I
believe. I would like to answer your points individually.
You said
1-Just because I haven't seen something does not mean it is not
real. Jesus knew that one day the sign gifts would cease and he
said.
John 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen
me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and
yet have believed.
Remember everyone that had the gift healing and the gift of
tongues was given that gift for a purpose. It was to validate
that what they were saying was from God. They had no other way
of knowing. Now that we have the Bible we do not have the sign
gifts. In fact how can we tell if it is from God or Satan? The
Bible says Satan will produce many miracles and wonders in the
end times. Yet the Bible tells the Christian the gifts of
tongues and prophecy and knowledge will cease. There is how we
tell!!!
The sign gifts ceased with completion of the Word of God. He had
finished. They had the gifts but not the completed Bible. We
have the completed Bible and not the sign gifts.
You said
2-What were the Apostles often critized for lack of faith/
unbelief?
Yes they were criticized for that and they had all the gifts.
The Apostles were to go to the Jews first. They never got past
that and God called Paul to be our Apostle. Paul is the one who
told us the signs will cease.The Jews rejected the Holy Spirit
as a nation when they stoned Stephen. The Bible says God blinded
the Jews but only for a short time. He turned his attention to
the Gentiles with a "mystery" Gospel given to Paul for us.
You said
3-Do we have the same struggles as the apostles/
Certainly
you said
4-Has the dynamic power of the Holy Spirit diminished over time?
Absolutley NOT. BUT certain gifts have ceased as we are told
would happen according to God's Word.
I answered the last three in some way or another from above.
Please look at the commission given by Jesus to the 11 Apostles
and also to Mathais the 12 apostle.
Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and
preach the gospel to every creature.
Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but
he that believeth not shall be damned.
Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my
name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new
tongues;
Mark 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any
deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on
the sick, and they shall recover.
And look at the mystery gospel given by Jesus to the Apostle
Paul it was HID from the world until revealed to Paul
Ephesians 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of
the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid
in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
Also Jesus gave the Apostles the direct order to go and preach
and BAPTIZE yet Paul says the following
1Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to
preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of
Christ should be made of none effect.
Paul was not sent to baptize. Paul is preaching a Gospel of
Believe and be sealed with the Holy Spirit while the apostle
were to baptize for the remission of sins and receive the Holy
Spirit.
Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the
word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after
that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of
promise,
What I am trying to say is that the apostle were preaching the
Kingdom of God was at hand. They were to convert the world,
starting with the Jews, and the 7 year tribulation would have
started and Christ would have come to rule the earth. Instead
the Jews rejected Jesus as a nation and God put the Kingdom
program on hold. This is where the sign gifts started to cease
as God gave his plan to Paul for the time we are in now.
I believe that IF the nation of Israel would not have rejected
Jesus then the message would have been brought to the entire
World through the Jewish nation. But all the apostles ended up
dying and will now have to wait until God is finished his plan
for the Gentiles and the "time of Jacobs trouble" will finish
off God's plan and bring in the 1,000 reign of Christ.So even
with the sign gifts the nation of Israel STILL would not
believe. So God put a new plan in place for the Gentiles and
this would be the miracle of believeing without seeing.You see
the Jews are the ones who require a sign not the Gentiles.
Remember Satan can imitate a lot of what God did. He can do a
lot. The babling of tongues that go on today in the Charismatic
churches are a real counterfit. BE CAREFUL OF THE GREAT
DECEIVER. His time is short and his days are numbered. We are to
believe in Jesus that he died for our sins and rose from the
grave to take our place. He paid it all. The only way to know if
it is from God is if it agrees with the Bible. That is the ONLY
way we can know. When what these churches are doing today
disagree so very much from the CLEAR teaching of God's Word BE
VERY CAREFUL.
thanks so much
Mike W