Marilyn Agee (9 July 2011)
"Paul Wilson (6 July 2011) "RE: Commentary on Revelation Chart", Seals, trumpets and vials"


From: Marilyn Agee
Re: Paul Wilson (6 July 2011)
"RE: Commentary on Revelation Chart,"
Seals, trumpets and vials
 
Hi:
 
> > It is chronologically written: seals then trumpets then vials. Just because the 3 judgment types share features does not mean they happen together.
Seals, trumpets and vials are chronologically written, but not all of Revelation is chronologically written. There are some parenthetic passages. For instance, chapters 6, 13 and 17 all start at the beginning of the Tribulation that follows the First-Trump Rapture. In Rev 17:9-17, that Rapture has just taken place, but the 10 kings have not yet received their kingdoms.
 
Rev 6:1,2 says, "I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. 2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he (the Antichrist, the first beast of Rev 13) that sat on him had a bow (Gr. toxon, plain fabric, i.e., he is a man of the cloth, a religious leader); and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."
 
Rev 13:1-3 also introduces this religious leader. It says, "I stood upon the sand of the sea ('peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues', Rev 17:15), and saw a beast (the great red dragon) rise up out of the sea (nations), having seven heads (the Pontifex Maximus' of Babel, Babylon II, Media-Persia, Greece, Holy Roman Empire, Ecclesiastical Roman Empire and Babylon III) and ten horns (kings), and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads (all 7) THE NAME OF BLASPHEMY (Pontifex Maximus, high priest, a title that belongs to Christ). 2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard (Greece, Dan 7:6), and his feet were as the feet of a bear (Media-Persia, Dan 7:5), and his mouth as the mouth of a lion (Babylon, Dan 7:4, i.e., he is teaching the Babylonian Mystery Religion): and the dragon (Satan) gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. 3 And I saw one of his heads (the Holy Roman Empire) as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed (the Holy Roman Empire became the Roman Ecclesiastical Empire): and all the world wondered after the beast".
 
Mt 7:15 says, "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing (wool), but inwardly they are ravening wolves." The Pope's badge of office, the symbol of top authority, is the woolen pallium worn over his liturgical dress. It is a woolen sash with some crosses on it that circles the neck and hangs down in front.
 
Of the unholy trinity, Rev 16:13 says, "And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the DRAGON (Satan), and out of the mouth of the BEAST (Antichrist), and out of the mouth of the FALSE PROPHET."
 
Rev 17:9-17 says, "here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains (kingdoms), on which the woman (the Mystery Religion of Babylon) sitteth. 10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen (kings of (1) Babel, (2) Babylon II, (3) Media-Persia, (4) Greece and the (5) Holy Roman Empire), and one is (6, the Pope, the Antichrist, head of the Roman Ecclesiastical Empire), and the other (7, the False Prophet, head of Babylon III) is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space (the Great Tribulation). 11 And the beast (great red dragon, Satan) that was (in Judas Iscariot), and is not (in man now), even he is the eighth, and is of the seven (controls all 7), and goeth into perdition (Satan enters into the 7th, the False Prophet, the 2nd son of perdition; Judas Iscariot was the 1st son of perdition). 12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet (i.e., when the First-Trump Rapture has just taken place); but receive power as kings one hour with the beast (i.e., the 7th, the Satan-possessed False Prophet). 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast (the False Prophet). 14 These shall make war with the Lamb (Christ), and the Lamb (clad in wool) shall overcome them: for he is LORD OF LORDS, AND KING OF KINGS: and THEY THAT ARE (present tense) WITH HIM (i.e., those that have just been raptured) ARE CALLED, AND CHOSEN, AND FAITHFUL." 15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. 16 And the ten horns (kings) which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall (i.e., in the future) hate the whore (Mystery Babylon), and shall (in the future) make her desolate and naked (she will move to literal Babylon, which is being rebuilt, and sit where Nimrod's throne was, at the Tower of Babel), and shall (in the future) eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. 17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast (the False Prophet), until the words of God shall be fulfilled. 18 And the woman which thou sawest is (at the time of the First-Trump Rapture, v 14) that great city (Vatican City), which reigneth over the kings of the earth."
 
You are right about the order of the seals, trumpets and vials. Also, the last trump of GOD is not the same as the last trump sounded by an angel.
 
SEALS, TRUMPETS AND VIALS ORGANIZED LIKE CIRCLE CLOCKS 
 
Imagine that you put a rubber band around seven Coke cans and drew around their tops on paper. You would have 6 circles surrounding the central 7th. Those 7 circles represent 7 Seals, with the center circle representing the 7th seal.
 
Inside the 7th seal, draw a smaller circle clock. Those circles represent trumpets. Inside the 7th trumpet, draw a smaller circle clock. Those circles represent vials (or bowls).
 
The seals come first. The 7 trumpets come out of the 7th seal. The 7 vials come out of the 7th trumpet.
 
BOTH TRUMP OF GOD RAPTURES ARE OFFSET
 
The First-Trump Rapture (I Thess 4:16,17; Rev 4:1) is before the FIRST SEAL (Rev 6). The Last-Trump Rapture (I Cor 15:51-54; Rev 7:14) is BEFORE THE SEVENTH SEAL (Rev 8).
 
THE MYSTERY OF GOD

Rev 10:7 says, "But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound (his trumpet), the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets."

Rev 11:15 says, "And the seventh angel sounded (his trumpet); and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever." This will probably take place on the Feast of Trumpets, Sept 14, 2015.

Just before that, on the Eve of Trumpets, there will be a Partial Solar eclipse. Rev 6:12 says, "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood". That Feast of Trumpets should be the day of the Last Trump Rapture and the Day of God's Wrath.

Agape,
Marilyn Agee
mjagee@verizon.net
http://prophecycorner.theforeverfamily.com
 
Paul Wilson (6 July 2011)
"RE: Commentary on Revelation Chart"

Then why write it in a confusing manner??? why not write the book “he opened the first seal then the first angel sound his trumpet then the first angel poured out his vial”?? It would make more sense to do that if they are in this manner then to list each seal THEN each trumpet THEN each vial. God is not the author of confusion that he would write this very important book in a coded manner. It is chronologically written: seals then trumpets then vials. Just because the 3 judgment types share features does not mean they happen together.
 
Paul