Eliane B (18 July 2011)
"Ancient Celtic wheat harvest celebration ("Pentecost") was on July 31/August 1"

 

Below is an interesting article by Arnold Bowen for those who are interested in the correct timing of Pentecost.

Source: http://lunarsabbath.us/id10.html

Eliane

 

A good question to ask is, if the truth Pentecost is in the fourth month, around the last of July or the first of August, then why are they not a festival, pagan or otherwise, around this time like is the case with the other true feasts/Chags of the Almighty?  And what is the counterfeit feast in the third month for the traditional third month Pentecost?  I know they celebrate Easter around Passover and Halloween around Tabernacles but what about Pentecost?

I can show where the  "ancient Celtic" people observed the "firstfruits" of the  "wheat harvest" in the "summertime" around the last day of  "July" or the first day of August which is in harmony with counting the 50 days "after" the seventh Sabbath complete instead of 50 days from the wave sheaf or after the first Sabbath.  Can anyone show a counterfeit feast in the third month for the traditional third month Pentecost?  Remember the adversary has a counterfeit for all the true feasts/Chags but I cannot think of one in the third month.

The main thing I would like to point out in the following articles on the Ancient Celtic people, who understood that the WHEAT HARVEST was not celebrated in the THIRD MONTH but in the FOURTH MONTH or beginning of the 5th. These Celts obviously knew something about farming and what crops were grown when. All the Paganism associated with these festivals does not change the facts of nature and that WHEAT HARVEST was not in the THIRD MONTH. It would be like someone saying that we are having the first fruits of watermelon harvest in the springtime/THIRD MONTH and everyone knows or should know that watermelons are not harvested in the springtime but are harvested in the summertime. The Same is true with grapes, the harvest of grapes is not in the springtime, but in the summertime, same as the original wheat harvest that is found in Scripture and this is why they were being accused of drinking new wine on the day of Pentecost in the book Acts of the Apostles.

I think it is time for someone to explain why the Ancient Israelite people thought that the FIRST FRUITS of the WHEAT harvest was on August 1st, which would be 50 days AFTER the seventh Sabbath complete as Leviticus 23:16 teaches.

The Historical facts shows that the Ancient Celtic People (whom we know to be Ancient Israelites) observed 4 MAJOR festivals each year and one of them was the “FIRST FRUITS” of the “WHEAT HARVEST” which they observed on July 31st or the first day of August which is in harmony with numbering 50 days AFTER the seventh Sabbath complete, as Leviticus 23:16 teaches, instead of 50 days after the wave sheaf.

Why didn’t someone tell these Israelite people, who were farmers, that the FIRST FRUITS of the WHEAT HARVEST was in the THIRD month instead of the FIFTH month?

Didn’t they know that everyone knew, especially the farmers, that there was no wheat harvest in the FIFTH MONTH? Or were they?

YES there was a wheat harvest in the FIFTH MONTH and it is the scriptural wheat harvest that is planted in the first month and harvested in the fourth month like our Savior said, “say not ye they are yet FOUR months then the harvest”. The winter wheat that is planted today, around September or October, takes SEVEN MONTHS to harvest and cannot be found in Scripture. Yes The Ancient Celtic People knew what they were talking about and that is why they observed Pentecost 50 days AFTER the seventh Sabbath complete as Leviticus 23:16 teaches.

The problem comes in when people do not understand that there is no record of a wheat harvest in the THIRD MONTH, found in Scripture. Not only is there ABSOLUTELY NO conclusive wheat harvest in the THIRD MONTH but it is an “ABSOLUTE FACT” that there is “NO” THIRD MONTH “FEAST” of “ANY KIND” found in Scripture.

Realizing that there are TWO types of wheat that is planted today, WINTER WHEAT, which is planted around September or October and harvested SEVEN MONTHS later, in the springtime about two weeks after the barley harvest, and SUMMER WHEAT which is planted in the first month/springtime, and harvested AFTER FOUR MONTHS, the question arises WHICH wheat harvest was the scriptural Pentecost we harvest???

It is obvious, from the Historical facts, that the Ancient Celtic People observed only one MAJOR FEAST for Pentecost wheat harvest and that was on the first day of August, which would correspond with counting 50 days AFTER the seventh Sabbath complete as prescribed in Leviticus 23:16.

When I say there is NOT even a THIRD MONTH FEAST mentioned in Scripture, all someone has to do to prove me wrong is give me chapter and verse to the contrary. I can give chapter and verse of a FEAST/Chag recorded at the END of the FOURTH MONTH or the beginning of the FIFTH MONTH, and can also prove from Scripture and Nature itself that the WHEAT HARVEST found in Scripture, was in the summertime, when the grapes were ripe, instead of the springtime.

As the Holy Prophet Joel prophesied in the second chapter of Joel, that the Holy Spirit would be poured out in the last days and “the floors would be full of WHEAT and the WINE PRESSES would be FULL OF WINE”. This happened on the day of Pentecost but there’s one thing wrong with this being in the THIRD MONTH because it is agriculturally “IMPOSSIBLE” to have any grapes or wine in the wine presses in the THIRD MONTH.

Although It is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for this prophecy to be full filed in the THIRD MONTH, it is possible to have the NEW WINE in the presses at the END of the FOURTH MONTH or the beginning of the FIFTH MONTH as we see the Ancient Celtic People celebrating the FIRST FRUITS of the WHEAT HARVEST on the FIRST DAY OF AUGUST but you MUST count 50 days AFTER the seventh Sabbath complete as Leviticus 23:16 teaches, instead of 50 days after the wave sheaf, as tradition teaches. see my article on PENTECOST at www.lunarsabbath.info for more details.

I have demonstrated how the Historical facts show that Philo, who live at the time our Savior and the Apostles, observed Pentecost 50 days AFTER the seventh seven complete instead of 50 days after the wave sheaf. Leviticus 23:16.

As I have said, someone should explain why The Ancient Celtic People celebrated Pentecost on August first?

I have much I could say on this subject but will finish later, I just wanted to run what I written so far by the gain Sayers and see their response.

A man named Ted Walters brought to my attention, the word Lammas, a word I had never heard of, and how it refers to the new growth that appears on oak trees and other trees during the summertime, around the last of July or first of August and the word means “FIRST FRUITS” or “LOAF MASS” and after searching a number of web sites I found that the Ancient Celtic people held a feast on this same day and a lot of people know that the Celtic people are descendants from ancient Israelites.

I found that During this feast they would make LOAVES OF BREAD from the FIRST FRUITS of the WHEAT HARVEST and place them on the altar and this was done at the end of the fourth month of July, on the 31st, or the first day of August which corresponds to numbering 50 days AFTER the seventh Sabbath complete, as Leviticus 23:16 teaches.

If the "ancient Celtic" people observed the "firstfruits" of the "wheat harvest" in the "summertime" around the last day of "July" or the first day of August which is in harmony with counting the 50 days "AFTER" the seventh Sabbath complete instead of 50 days from the wave sheaf or after the FIRST Sabbath, which would be in the springtime of the third month and I have shown there is no feast mentioned in scripture in the third month. This is an Absolute and there is no conclusive wheat harvest in the third month found in Scripture. As a matter of fact there is no third month harvest found anywhere in Scripture and I challenge anyone to find one and if you cannot find a feast or harvest in the third month, then why try to get someone to keep a third month feast unless it is strictly a tradition of man?