Dear John and Doves:I would not like a casual reader of CV's comments to reach an erroneous conclusion. I still believe in a pre-Daniel's-70th-week rapture event. I do not find it inconsistent with either scripture or history to believe that Jesus started breaking seals 2000 years ago, but I am far from a preterist. It seems reasonable to believe -- in light of history -- that the Four Horsemen have been out and about for all of church history, that the time of martyrdom may be coming to a close, and that we may be on the threshold of the opening of the 6th seal."Tribulation" has been NORMAL for most Christians (Acts 14:22) for the past 2,000 years. Tribulation brings us to maturity (Romans 5:3). However, Jesus spoke of "great tribulation" in the sense of heavy judgment ... a "last chance" as it were for rebellious men to repent of their evil deeds. Because there is at least an opportunity for redemption, there is still mercy; albeit a severe one.But after that, the door is firmly shut. God's wrath against sin and sinners will once again be poured out. There is no place in the life of the Christian for wrath.I find it troubling to see that CV's conversion to a post-trib position came not from some Biblical revelation, but rather from prophecies to a German lady. But if being post-trib (or whatever) leads to constructive spiritual preparation, then may Jesus Christ be glorified.Because at the end of the day, it's all about Him.Best,Steve