Bart Ering (15 July 2009)
"God's Two Witnesses"


 

Sorry I can't buy that John is  one of the witness's with what you have provided here.

 

 

Power Over Fire

 

 

 "   In Luke 9:51-56 it is recorded that Christ passed through Samaria.  He sent His disciples ahead of Him into a Samaritan village to “make ready for Him.”  The Samaritans in that village refused to receive Christ.  Their response produced violent indignation in James and John.  They asked the Lord, “Lord, wilt Thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias [Elijah] did?”  Such is exactly what is indicated in Revelation 11:5, “…..fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies…..” 

    It might be argued by some that John did not actually have the power to call fire down from heaven.  But it is obvious that John, if the Lord so willed, certainly thought he had such power.  The Word of God certainly teaches that the “two witnesses” will have such power, and will exercise it upon their enemies during the Tribulation.  "

 

Don't you think the Lord can have anyone he wants call down fire? Just because someone has already done it once does not mean the Lord can only rely on that person (or them) to do it again at a later time.

I think that is limiting the lord a little.

 

 

 

 

Sons of Thunder

 

   " In Mark 3:13-19 the Lord selected twelve apostles.  Verse 17 places James and John in the list of the apostles, along with the statement that the Lord Himself “surnamed them Boanerges, which is, The sons of thunder.” 

    In Revelation 10:1-4 we are told about a “Mighty Angel” that roars “as a lion roareth.”  When the “Mighty Angel” roars “seven thunders uttered their voices.”  These “seven thunders” communicate a Divine message.  We know this to be true because John started to write down what the “seven thunders” had said.  It is obvious that John understood what the thunders had said.  He had been named by the Lord Himself as a “son of thunder.” The only time “thunder” is mentioned in the New Testament, other than here in Revelation 10, occurs in Mark 3:17, John 12:29, and other passages in Revelation [Tribulation]It is obvious that John has a peculiar relation to “thunder” in the Scriptures.  Notice that this passage in Revelation 10 is directly connected to Revelation 11 which tells us about the ministry of God’s “two witnesses.”  There is no break or pause between the two chapters.  This certainly suggests that John will be the second “witness” who will literally fulfill what the “Mighty Angel” tells him he “must” do “again” in Revelation 10:11."

 

 

I think this is a far stretch to say this is proof of being a witness. In fact the Lord called both bothers by that nick name.

"And James the son of Zebedee, and John the brother of James; and he surnamed them Boanerges, which is, The sons of thunder:"

Why would he do that if John was the only one he was referring to hmm perhaps it is because of the zeal and loud forceful way they preached; I am more inclined to believe that then this being proof of being a witness. If this kind of evidence went to court it would be tossed out quickly.

 

                                                            On the Earth

 

" Right here in Revelation 10, John is described as being on the earth during the Tribulation.  Glory!  What follows will demonstrate this truth."

 

Nope don’t see it.

 

It seems every few months this same topic and same posts always pops up here let’s not turn this one into a name calling fight like the last one. Some may see these as he does some may not so be it. I for one don't.