Amy (7 July 2008)
"Added thoughts to SUMMER PENTECOST and possible trib dates"


RAPTURE – Pentecost - Tammuz 29 (Aug 1, 2008)

      New Moon & Solar Eclipse–Aug 1 ?

 

Possible Gog-Magog War – Tammuz 17 - Av 9 (Aug 10)

                                - “three weeks ofmourning”;“10 days”

-         7-months to burial – Ezek. 39:11-16

-         Purim (March 10, 2009) – exactly 7 mos.

-         at “Hamon-Gog”

 

60 days from Aug 1 = Rosh Hashana  (Sept 30, 2008)

                                - “crown false prince”(?) - civil new yr

 

90 days from Aug 1 = Heshvan 1 (Oct 30, 2008)

                                - “flood month”; “the end shall be with a flood”- Daniel 9:26

                                - Confirmation of the Treaty (?)

        (from Oct 30, ‘08 - 2520 days to Day of Atonement [Sept 23, 2015])

 

1260 days from Oct 30,2008=Apr 11, ‘12 (4th day after Passover  – Revelation 11:3-13)

                (April 11, 2012 is 1290 days from Rosh Hashana  [Sept 30,2008])

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1260 days from April 11, 2012 = Sept 23, 2015

                                - Day of Atonement (as Moses “type”)

                                - Second Coming (?)

                - (plus 5 days to Tabernacles – 4th blood moon of 2014/15 “tetrad”)

 

1290 days from April 11, 2012 = Heshvan 10 (Oct 23, 2015)

                                - “flood month”; “Noah’s days, as in”

                                - Judgment of the Nations (?) – Matt 25

                                - Sheep & Goat Judgment (?)

 

1335 days from April 11, 2012 = Kislev 24 (Dec 6, 2015)

                        - Festival of Light/Dedication/Hanukah

                        - Millennium begins (?)

                        - “Blessed”– Daniel 12:12; Haggai 2:18-19; Psalm 115:12-18

 

Also of note is the fact that September 23, 2015 (Day of Atonement) is exactly 49 “biblical” years from June 7, 1967.

Subtract the seven “biblical” years (the duration of the tribulation) and you have exactly 42 years from June 7, 1967 to October 30, 2008 (Heshvan 1, as shown above.)

 

The significance is that supposedly there were 2 years that the children of Israel journeyed across the desert (2 Passovers) before God gave them the 40 additional years of “wandering.”

A total of 42 years, plus the 7 years to “conquer” the land (Promised Land.)

If true, this would be identical to the 42 years from 6/7/67 – 10/30/08 (the supposed “treaty date”, as shown above), and then the 7 years following.

 

 

I would also like to draw attention to Song of Solomon 2:11, which says, “For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone…” If the “early rains” occur in the fall, and the “latter rains” are in the spring, it would seem to me that the phrase “the rain is over and gone” would be specifically referring to summer.

 

As for this new “summer Pentecost” idea (August 1, 2008), I still have not come up with any definitive argument (from scripture) which would directly oppose it. Believe me, I was one, not too long ago, who was arguing FOR the commonly-understood dating of Pentecost (“begin counting the 50 days from Firstfruits, on ‘the morrow after the Sabbath, following Passover.’” i.e. June 15) Yet, upon closer examination, I can see how it MIGHT be saying (Leviticus 23:15-16) “COUNT seven sabbaths complete…[and]… NUMBER 50 days.”

The texts in Exodus 19 onward, as well as Acts 20-21 both seem to indicate a longer period of time than just the 50 days alone.

In John 20 - Acts 2, there is mentioned that Jesus was “seen of them 40 days, and teaching of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God”, and also says “not many days hence” (which we understand to be another 10 days until the Holy Spirit came to indwell them.) But does that preclude the possibility that there may have been an additional 7 weeks prior to this “40 days” and “not many days hence”? I am not sure.

By the 300’s AD, there were three or four “differing dates” for Shavuot/Pentecost. The Pharisee’s held one view, the Sadducee’s another, and there were still other views (possibly even this now “more obscure” view of “Tammuz 29.”)

Clearly then, the timing of Pentecost (Shavuot/Feast of Weeks) has been the most disputed feast/festival on the Hebrew calendar for many, many years. Much of it is due to the fact that Firstfruits and Shavuot/Pentecost were the only feasts in scripture that were not given a specific “calendar date.” And because Christ’s resurrection fulfilled Firstfruits (of which many simply do not acknowledge.)

I also believe it has been “obscured” due to the fact that it involves our future resurrection/rapture (also being on a Pentecost.)

 

On another note, I see many similarities in the Ezekiel 38-39 passage with the Joel 2 passage (which Peter quoted from on Pentecost.) Not ALL of it seems to have been fulfilled at that time, which is why many scholars believe that it WILL be, at some future Pentecost(s).

Notice the references to the “earth quaking”, which many scholars say may occur at the resurrection of the dead.

This is another reason why I see a possible correlation between the Gog-Magog War, Joel 2 (see if you can find the similarities in the texts), Pentecost, and August 1, 2008 (which date happens to fall within the Jews’

 “three-weeks of mourning” leading up to Av 9, Israel’s “saddest day” or “day of destruction”… and which is also precisely 7 months before Purim.)

 

As far as I can tell, and IF this particular “chart” is the correct “formula” (so to speak), it is the ONLY “year set” (of the upcoming qualifying metatonic-cycle-“year-sets”) that “fits” in such a way. In other words, when I tried “plugging this chart” into the “year sets” starting in 2011 and 2014 (the two other upcoming “7-year sets” that would have the 2520-days, and not 2550-days), the “markers” ended up falling a day or two “off” of “significant dates”… even though one would expect them to “be identical” due to the fact that they each have the “2520 days” in them.

2008-2015 was the only “year set” where these particular “markers” fell on “significant dates” on the Jewish calendar.

 

These are just some things that I personally found to be of interest. They may or may not be correct, but I reserve the right to be “just as wrong as anyone else!” J (and, as wrong as I have been many times before!)

 

Eagerly anticipating our departure… with you!