John and readers -We are all commanded to "watch" for our Lord's return. He graciously gives us many clues which we try to discern so we will be awake We know those Scriptures which admonish us to watch so I will not state them because you know them.
Each of us has to discern what we believe are signs and try to interpret those signs into something which is understandable.
Some of the clues which we have seen are below - followed by possible interpretations and connections. I will try to be brief; but thorough as this may be lengthy.
There are multiple witnesses possibly pointing toward something important.
1) 234 Vincent Tan's token given by an angel $2.34 filled his gas tank.
2) 111 Many people see this number
3) 11 11 Many people see this number
4) Bob Lee was given a dream in 2002 in which there were 5 goats.
5) A sister was given a dream of a 10 second countdown with 2 second warning.1) The 234
A fellow 'dovette' told me that if it was too simple for a child, it probably isn't right.
I began to play around with the 234 based on her statement and began playing with brackets [ thusly] as frequently our Lord shows us here a little and there a little and we have to put it together through study etc. Like a child I looked at 234 and something appears to be missing. It looks like a count but there is no zero or one.
After playing with these brackets, I arrived at the following - [1] 234 or [day 1] 234 or [day 1 is] 234. That looks good and it actually makes a sentence. What could [day 1 is] is 234 possibly mean? Removing the brackets it simply says 'day 1 is 234' or
perhaps day one is 2/3/4. That looks like a date. Thus I have
Day one is
Feb 3, 2004 (a possible interpretation - but of what application).2) The 111
Many have seen this number and much has been posted on it so there must be something there because "in the mouth of two or three witnesses" etc.
Many see a date in the number and that is possibly/probably a valid interpretation but may I suggest another. One application might possibly be they are simply tic marks, maybe on a clock, with 2 seconds between them.3) The 11 11s
This number is profound and again much has been posted about it.
Y'shua was born into a Roman dominated world and would have assuredly known Roman numerals. Allow me to assume for a moment that each 11 is simply a Roman Numeral two. We then have 2 2. Even in today's society, a Junior son is known as John Doe II - the 11 is always referred to as "the second". Thus we have 'second' 'second' or '2 seconds'. Adding the 11 11 across gives us a total of 4. Each 11 is a 2. Together this could be interpreted as 2 2 4. That possibly looks like a date maybe -
Feb 2, 2004.
Again it is also possibly interpreted as "two seconds". What application could that have?4) Bob Lee's Goat Dream.
Back in 2002, Bob Lee was given a dream with five goats in it. He posted it on Doves and many people have attempted interpretations.
Synoptically - The five goats were in a crescent shape around Brother Lee. One of the goats had a clock around his neck with the time 7:27 flashing. It is interesting that this year 7:27 or 7/27 or July 27, 2004 fell on 9 Av. That possibly has application but my area of concentration on this dream was the horns on the goats. Some had horns, others did not. The order of the horns from left to right were -
0 2 0 0 2. If one takes the zeroes as placeholders and eliminates them and, again like a child, says the horns aloud and accumulate them as you go. The horns 'say'
2 2 4. That looks familiar (see the 11 11 interpretation - at point 3).
Again 2 2 4 looks like possibly a date which would be
Feb 2, 2004.Now going back to my original thought on 234 as related to something missing which would be a zero and a one.
From the interpretation of Day ONE is 2/3/4. The date of 2/2/4 is the day before 2/3/4. The number Zero is before the number One. This makes the date of 2/2/4 - Zero Day.Thus far we have the following possible interpretation.
Day Zero is
Feb 2, 2004Day One is
Feb 3, 2004By itself - that means nothing significant.
Continuing to point 5)5) A sister was given a dream of a 10 second countdown with a 2 second warning.
This was posted by me Oct or Nov of 2003. That post is purged as are all of 2003. I still have the original message should anyone desire a copy.In this dream, a group of people were standing outside as a huge bird came overhead. Some people were looking at the ground (things of this world) and others were looking up and praising God - waiting and watching for His return. Those watching would be ready and those not watching would not be ready. The first bird coming overhead was a good bird and was on a mission from God. To the left and behind this first bird was another bird which was a flesh eater. I could give you her description of the birds; but, that not important at this point. What is important is that in this dream, there had been a ten second countdown given followed by a two second warning. Yes - a Two Second Warning (refer to point 3 on 11 11).
In reference to the 1st bird. Might it be an Archangel? 1st Thes 4:16,17 talks about the voice of an Archangel. Might this be an escort? Eliezer, Abram's servant (sent by Abraham for Rebekah as a wife for Isaac) was an escort and his gematria is 162. The window on the third deck of Noah's ark was 162 inches high - only birds go out at that window - or maybe Archangels as escorts? Thus you possibly have a # 162 escort (Archangel) from a # 162 window. Angels do have wings and they can fly. Ponder that a bit.
Back to the 2 second warning. That really, at this point, doesn't mean a lot without a definitive application.
Allow me to change directions here for a moment.
There have been several reported visitations over the years to The Throne Room and the visitors were shown the Throne Room Clock. . Calculating from those Throne Room visitations and the time shown remaining until Midnight on The Throne Room Clock vs the years on which they occured and time elapsed on the clock - 1 minute equals 11.5 years. Those figures were done by Jerry Grenough and Dnock and posted on one of the P&Cs by MJ Agee (I momentarily forget which P&C). Using that equasion and working the math and figuring a year at 365 + leap days... that working scale figures at one second equals 70 earth days. That is something which I will personally look at for a long time... or whatever time is left. A working model is only as good as the results. Since I can't definitely determine anything which is future I can only work in the past.OK - at this point, we possibly have a ten second countdown with a two second warning and applicable on The Throne Room Clock.
If the 70 earth days equals 1 second on The Throne Room Clock is correct as interpreted; it should have some definitive dates - boundaries. Let's check.
A ten second countdown on The Throne Room Clock would equal 700 earth days. The first 8 seconds (TRC) would equal 560 earth days and the last two second warning (TRC) would equal 140 earth days.
Now let's go back to the two second warning dates. Day zero is 2/2/4 and Day 1 is 2/3/4. First, let's figure this backwards to the beginning of the 8 second TRC countdown prior to the 2 Second Warning.
560 days before 2/2/4 was 13 Av or July 22, 2002. (There was an eclipse on 7-22-01) (Interestingly many are seeing many combinations of 2 2 2 2 also. I have many times. Also the Strongs # for ZOE meaning life is # 2222 - that's more 11 11 11 11 - twos.) This date of 13 Av is two days past 11 Av - Another 11 11. 11 Av 5750/1990 (Thu) - Iraq invades Kuwait; Gulf War I begins. The date of July 22, 2004 would have been twelve years and two days later.
I personally feel that is fairly definitive in establishing the beginning of a 10 second (TRC) - 700 earth day countdown.However the 560 days only takes us down to the date of Feb 2, 2004 (224 -goat horns & 11 11) as day zero and Feb 3, 2004 (234) as day one of the two second TRC - 140 earth day warning begins. Figuring from Feb 2, 2004 (with 2/3/4 as day one)....
1 second = 70 earth days - therefore a 2 second warning = 140 earth days.
Result of calculation
Added 140 days to Monday, February 2, 2004 00:00:00 Result:
Monday, June 21, 2004
We know that the Jewish date begins 0600 PM Gentile time on the previous day. Thus the Jewish date for 20/21 June 2004 would have been 1 Tammuz.Thus - what might well be Midnight on The Throne Room Clock occured on 20/21 June 2004 - Summer Solstice. That was the point at which the sun (for signs) was fartherst North in the sky. At that point, it appeared to stop for a moment and then begin its return trip southward.
Interesting also is the fact that on 18 June 2004, I had a dream. In this dream I was shown a book written in what could only be Hebrew. There were numerous words which were blurred out (out of focus). The only words I definitely could read were "Aha HaShem". I recorded the dream immediately and at 5:23 AM on 6-18-04, I sent a message to Dave Camp, David Parker (CAPS), and Calvin Montgomery reporting the dream. A part of that exact message follows -
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04:40 AM 6-18-04
Just woke up and remember a dream...
In this dream I read about five or at most six words.
I don't remember much at all. I think it was Hebrew.
Lengthwise it was as follows:
"Aha HaShem ???? ???? ?????"
The "aha" may be a part of it, then, definitely followed by "HaShem" (or a variation) then two or three more words to it. The only definite letters and the definite sequence of those letters which I remember is "HaShem". What/who(?) Is HaShem?
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Again this dream(?) was two days before 1 Tammuz. I didn't even know what HaShem meant and had to ask. Duh !!! The guys were nice enough to explain to me without putting me down.I had already shared with those three 'muskateers' that I didn't think there was any time left on The Throne Room Clock. What I did not know was that one of those three had already been told - "There is no more time". He was told that on a date with a 911 foundation (a warning). Other words from at least one other prophetic forum had noted "No More Time" as a third witness.
On July 22, 2004, I was given a dream with "Handwriting on the Wall". It was beautiful penmanship with small horns coming from some of the letters. I immediate recorded this dream and again sent a similar message to this small group of friends. One of the guys had to explain those horns looking things to me.
So, here I sit, with all of these things running through my head. There have been 1,340 messages shared behind the scenes since early April 2004. It was then that I first approached Dave Camp with info re some of the possible interpretations. Because of a prior post of his, I knew he was interested in the Bob Lee Goat Dream and thought he might be interested. That was the beginning of hundreds of messages back and forth between (up to) eight or nine of us.
Now, allow me to assume that 1 Tammuz was in fact Midnight on The Throne Room Clock.
Let's take a look at the book of Ezra where the strange wives are separated.
Ezr 10:14 Let now our rulers of all the congregation stand, and let all them which have taken strange wives in our cities come at appointed times, and with them the elders of every city, and the judges thereof, until the fierce wrath of our God for this matter be turned from us.
Ezr 10:15 Only Jonathan the son of Asahel and Jahaziah the son of Tikvah were employed about this [matter]: and Meshullam and Shabbethai the Levite helped them.
Ezr 10:16 And the children of the captivity did so. And Ezra the priest, [with] certain chief of the fathers, after the house of their fathers, and all of them by [their] names, were separated, and sat down in the first day of the tenth month to examine the matter.Ezr 10:17 And they made an end with all the men that had taken strange wives by the first day of the first month.
It was raining then and the separation was not a matter of a few days. In fact, one can easily calculate that it took 88 days to separate the strange wives. 88 days is slightly more than 1 second (70 earth days) on The Throne Room Clock.
Is there a separation going on now? You decide through God given discernment.
If the above is true, then The Throne Room Clock clicks over to 1 second past Midnight on .......
Result of calculation
Added 70 days to Sunday, June 20, 2004 00:00:00 Result:Sunday,
August 29, 2004 (1 Second past Midnight)It then clicks over to 2 seconds past Midnight on ...
Result of calculation
Added 140 days to Sunday, June 20, 2004 00:00:00 Result:Sunday,
November 7, 2004 (2 Seconds past Midnight)That will adequately encompass the Fall Feasts but one thing of note. It only took Ezra 88 days to complete the separation.
Two more calculations and I will close.
Time calculation
From: Sunday, June 20, 2004 (Possibly Midnight - 1 Tammuz - Summer Solstice)
to: Thursday, July 29, 2004 00:00:00 It is
39 days (40 inclusive) (a little more than 1/2 second TRC)and one last calculation ...
Result of calculation
Added 88 days (Ezra's separation days) to Sunday, June 20, 2004 00:00:00 Result:Thursday,
September 16, 2004 --- 1 Tishri - Rosh HaShanah
~ ~ ~ ~In summary -
I am not predicting anything. I am simply showing you calculations and possible interpretations. Personally, I feel that the time could be cut short by a few days but that is, of course, also only an opinion.Readers, if there is error here: it is mine and I accept full responsibility. I will account for it. I have sincerely tried in a logical way to present this to you for your discernment through the Spirit of God which dwells in you abundantly.
If these things are true, The Praise Honor and Glory belongs to Abba and Our Lord Y'shua - our coming King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
Respectfully,
your brother in Christ
-doug