Gary Rich (22 Jan 2017)
"RE: Carl Worline & The Sign of the Woman in Rev 12"


In my posting last week regarding the Revelation 12 sign that is to occur Sept 2017, i ask for any of you who might have insight into what this means to please share with us. Well - a little research on my own revealed that several of you have already posted articles on this subject. Carl posted a really good one this past December. Also - Daniel Matson has written a good research paper titled , ( The Great Sign of Revelation 12 occurs in 2017 ) . It appears from what i have read ,  this Rev 12 event in the stars is going to lead into the Tribulation Judgements as described in the Book of Revelation. There seems to be  a very good chance that before 2017 is over, all Christian believers in Jesus Christ will be celebrating our new eternal lives with Jesus in the heavenly City - The New Jerusalem !!!


have a blessed day,   Gary
yfc77jesus@aol.com





Carl Worline
(4 Dec 2016)


"The Sign of the Woman in Revelation 12"




The Sign of the Woman

in Revelation 12

Does God Want Us to Look at the Signs in the Heavens?

The answer to this question is a loud and resounding “Yes!!!” God told us in the very first chapter of His book that He specifically put the sun, moon, and stars in the heavens to be signs for us. He also told us that day after day these signs speak to all of the people on the earth. In Luke we are told that there will be signs for us in the sun, moon, and stars. In Matthew we are even told that there will be a sign in heaven when Jesus returns with His army to defeat the anti-Christ. Furthermore, we are told that God does not do anything without first revealing it to His servants, the prophets and we are all commanded to watch. Jesus told us in Revelation that if we do not watch, He will come to us as unexpectedly as a thief in the night and as a result we will not know the day or hour of His arrival. Signs appear shortly before an event happens and we are now seeing the signs that Jesus told us to look for.

And God said, let there be lights in the firmament in the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and for years. Genesis 1:14.

The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands. Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they display knowledge. There is no speech or language where their voice is not heard. Their voice goes out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world. Psalm 19:1-4.

‘There will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth dismay among nations, in perplexity at the roaring of the sea and the waves, men fainting from fear and the expectation of the things which are coming upon the world; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.’ –Luke 21:25-26.

And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. Matthew 24:30.

It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honor of kings to search out a matter. Proverbs 25:2.

Surely the Lord God does nothing unless He reveals His secret counsel to His servants the prophets. Amos 3:7.

And what I say to you I say to all, Watch. Mark 13:37.

If therefore you shall not watch, I will come on you as a thief, and you shall not know what hour I will come on you. Rev 3:3.

The Sign of the Woman in Revelation 12

Revelation 12:1 tells us that a “Great Sign” appeared in heaven. Therefore, we know that this sign will be something significant as well as something that is spectacular. Revelation 12:3 says that the sign appeared. It showed up. It wasn’t there before.

1 Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars. 2 Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth. 3 And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his head. 4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. 5 She bore a male child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her child was caught up to God and His throne. 6 Then the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there 1260 days. Rev 12:1-6.

Beginning on November 20, 2016, and culminating on September 23, 2017, a series of alignments will occur in the constellation Virgo (The Virgin) that has never happened before and is so unique that it will never happen again. This series of alignments will definitely be a herald of End Time events, although exactly what it is heralding is still a mystery.

Jupiter is the largest planet in our solar system and, therefore, represents God on the heavenly stage. Jupiter is often known as the “King Planet.” Normally Jupiter would sail through Virgo as it travels along the ecliptic. However, this time around it changes direction twice due to a phenomenon know as retrograde motion and remains in the belly of Virgo for 294 days. This is the gestation period of a normal late-term pregnancy.

Conception occurs on November 20, 2016, when Jupiter enters the belly of Virgo. After seemingly reversing direction twice Jupiter passes through the birth canal of Virgo when it crosses the line between the stars Spica and Heze on September 9, 2017. Jupiter will have been in the belly of Virgo 294 days, which is 42 weeks, or 9 months plus 21 days.

The dragon represents Satan, but who does the child represent in this heavenly drama? Many would say that the child represents Jesus. Perhaps. However, there is no place in the Bible that would suggest that Jesus ever flees from Satan. Jesus defeated Satan and ascended into heaven in victory. I would speculate that the child in Revelation 12 is the Raptured Church. The word “caught up” in Revelation 4, verse 5, is the Greek word “harpazo.” It is the same word found in 1 Thessalonians 4:17. Harpazo means to seize, to carry off by force, to seize on, to claim for oneself eagerly, to snatch out or away. When Jesus left in the ascension in Acts, Chapter 1, He did not leave in this manner. Harpazo comes from the Latin word rapio (or rapiemur) from which the modern word “rapture” was derived.

Above the head of Virgo are the 9 stars of the constellation Leo, the Lion. Practically speaking, these 9 stars can be considered to be in the crown on Virgo’s head. On September 23, 2017, the planets Venus, Mercury, and Mars will come into alignment above the head of Virgo as well, forming the garland of 12 stars mentioned in Revelation 12:1. At that time the crescent moon will be at Virgo’s feet and Virgo will also be clothed with the sun.

This alignment has not occurred since August 5, 3915 BC on the Gregorian calendar, which was 5,932 years ago. On the Biblical calendar of 360 days in a year, this alignment occurred 6,017 Biblical years ago. Many Biblical scholars believe this is around the time when Adam and Eve walked upon the earth.

I wonder. Could God have used this Great Sign to mark the beginning of mankind about 6,000 years ago and will He use it again to mark the end of the Age of Grace for mankind?

The completion of the Great Sign of the Woman occurs on September 23, 2017, when the stars in the crown align. It is certainly unique and it is truly spectacular. However, God will be doing even more to increase the “wow factor” of this event. A lot more. For example:

  • On September 23, 2017, God is placing a very special comet, with a very special name and designation, in conjunction with the crescent moon at the foot of Virgo, and at a very special distance from earth, which will also be synchronized with the retrograde motion of Jupiter, and will be on a very special anniversary of a very special historical event for Israel.
  • The completion of the alignment of the Great Sign of the Woman will intersect with the end of the 2 day period in which the Feast of Trumpets occurs. The Feast of Trumpets will start at sundown on September 21, 2017, and will end at sunset on September 23, 2017. The Sign of the Woman occurs at sunset on September 23, 2017. Therefore, these two events intersect at sunset on September 23, 2017. The Feast of Trumpets is the feast that has traditionally been associated with the resurrection of the righteous dead and the Rapture of the Church.
  • The Great Sign of the Woman will occur at a very special time in history. The year 2017 is believed to be a jubilee year. Jubilee years are very special to God. Debts are forgiven, slaves are freed, and land returns to its original owner. This happens every 50 years, but this jubilee is exceptional. After careful research, many Jewish scholars believe this is the 120th jubilee. If we multiply 120 jubilees by 50 years each, we come up with 6,000 years. If God has a 7,000 year plan for mankind (and as Genesis 6:3 seems to suggest), and there is still a 1000 year long millennium ahead of us, we could very well have arrived at the end of the Age of Grace and are about to enter the Great Tribulation that precedes the Millennium.
  • In Genesis 6:3 God says “And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.” Could there be a double meaning here? When God said “an hundred and twenty years,” could He have also been alluding to 120 jubilees? The 120th jubilee will end on the Feast of Trumpets in 2017 as part of the events of the Great Sign of the Woman.
  • The Great Sign of the Woman will occur at an even more special and significant time in history. The Gregorian year 2017 intersects with the year 5777 on the Hebrew calendar. Numbers are important in both the Bible and the Torah. The number 5 signifies grace. The number 7 signifies perfection. When a number is repeated, it signifies great importance. When a number is again repeated (for example 777) it signifies a maximum emphasis of importance. The number 5777 is highly symbolic for the perfection of grace, or the end of the Age of Grace.
  • Even more significant is that the Great Sign of the Woman will occur on the very last day of the 120th jubilee, on the Feat of Trumpets, which is the Jewish New Year, as the Hebrew calendar moves from 5777 to the year 5778. The number 8 signifies completion. Technically speaking, the completion of this sign will be present on the last day of the Hebrew year 5777 and it will be present on the first day of the Hebrew year 5778.
  • September 23, 2017, just happens to fall on a Saturday – the Jewish Sabbath.
  • The fall equinox will occur on September 22, 2017, just one day before the Great Sign of the Woman but within the time period of the Feast of Trumpets. This is very unusual in that the Feast of Trumpets can happen in September or October, depending on other astronomical factors.

The Great Sign of The Woman will be the culmination of a series of spectacular heavenly events. Some of these astronomical events include:

  • The 2014-2015 tetrad of blood moons which occurred on the Jewish feast days of Passover and Tabernacles.
  • The truly unique solar eclipse that occurred in the middle of the 2014-2015 tetrads. There was a total solar eclipse of the sun (sackcloth sun) for two minutes over the North Pole on Friday, March 20, 2015, the day of the Spring Equinox which coincides with the beginning of the Hebrew month of Nissan, the first month in the biblical calendar year, a solar occurrence that has likely never happened before in human history. A total solar eclipse at the North Pole on the first day of spring occurs once every 100,000 years. For it to occur on the first day of the first month of the biblical calendar year is, however, entirely unprecedented.
  • The Great American Eclipse that will happen on August 21, 2017, which will sweep around half of the earth but only bring darkness to one nation – the United States. A lunar eclipse has always been considered to be a bad omen for Israel whereas a solar eclipse, like this one, has always been considered a bad omen for the Gentiles.
  • The Supermoon of November 14, 2016 in which the moon was the closest to the earth as it has been since Israel became a nation 1948 and the End Times began. It was 14 percent larger and 30 percent brighter than an average full moon. The moon has always been considered symbolic of the Bride of Christ in the heavens because the moon gives off no light of its own, but rather reflects the light of the sun (Son). Could the nearness of the moon, along with its timing, be a message to us that the rapture is near and the time to be prepared is now?
  • In 1992, on the 9th of Av on the Hebrew calendar, the comet Shoemaker Levi 9 broke into 21 pieces (7 + 7 + 7) and impacted the bottom (heel) of the planet Jupiter, between July 16-22. The 9th of Av is an exceptionally important date for the nation and people of Israel. For example, the First Temple was destroyed on the 9th of AV in 586 BC and the Second Temple was destroyed on the 9th of Av in 70 AD. Jupiter is the God planet. It also seems to follow a prophetic pattern, as set forth in Genesis 3:15-16, during which God was talking to Eve, Adam, and the serpent (Satan) in the Garden of Eden. In the very next verse God introduces the concept of pain involved with childbirth – birth pangs – in conjunction with the coming Messiah. Birth pangs are also a central theme in the heralding of the Rapture.

And I will put enmity between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel." To the woman He said, "I will greatly multiply your pain in childbirth, In pain you will bring forth children; Yet your desire will be for your husband, And he will rule over you.” Genesis 3:15-16.

Comet 67p

As spectacular as The Great Sign of the Woman may be, God is doing even more to call our attention to what is happening on the heavenly stage. On September 23, 2017, Comet 67p will be directly abeam (in conjunction with) the moon, passing by the foot of Virgo 50 years after Jerusalem was returned to the Jews in the 1967 Six Day War. It will also be synchronized with the retrograde motion of Jupiter. On this date Comet 67p will just happen to be 777 million kilometers from the sun.

I find it interesting that astronomers have designated Comet 67p as a “Jupiter family” comet. I also find it interesting that the “67” in the name designating this comet seems to pair so conveniently with the year 1967, in which Israel gained control of Jerusalem. God’s timing of End Time events, as outlined by the angel Gabriel in the Book of Daniel, seems to hinge around Jerusalem. Even more coincidental is the timing of the comet, arriving one jubilee (50 years) after Jerusalem’s liberation from the Muslims.

Comet 67p is also referred to as the Jubilee Comet. Over the centuries the Jews lost track of the years in which Jubilee’s occurred. Many biblical historians believe that 1967 must be a jubilee because that is when Israel regained Jerusalem in the Six Day War. One of the characteristics of a jubilee is that land must return to its original owner. By checking back in 50 year increments scholars noted that other events significant to Israel also occurred in those years. If this is the case, then 2017 is also a jubilee year.

With all of the comets in space to choose from, the European Space Agency (ESA) chose Comet 67p as the destination for their Rosetta probe. On March 2, 2004, the Philae lander from the probe landed on the surface of this comet.

The conjunction of Comet 67p and the moon will occur at the very end of the Feast of Trumpets. I wonder if the rapture will happen on the Feast of Trumpets this year and the following day God will give those who remain the Great Sign of the Woman as an explanation of what just happened and as a warning of what is yet to take place.

The Feast of Trumpets

Understanding the importance of the Feast of Trumpets, also know as Rosh Hashanah and as Yom Teruah, is of key importance in understanding what the Bible tells of regarding the timing of the rapture.

Pentecost is known as the first trumpet. Yom Kippur (The Day of Atonement) is known as the great trumpet. The Feast of Trumpets is known as the last trumpet.

During the 30 day period leading up to The Feast of Trumpets the shofar is blown each day 100 times (3 distinct sounds blown in sets of 9 and repeated 11 times, for a total of 99). The last note is a long blast, and is always referred to as “the last trumpet.” The last trumpet is only blown on the Feast of Trumpets and the apostle Paul specifically mentions that the Rapture of the believers in Christ will take place at the last trumpet. It was a “mystery” that was only revealed in the Bible much later when Paul said:

Behold, I tell you a mystery; we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed. 1 Corinthians 15:51-52.

The Feast of Trumpets is also known as Yom Teruah. The word Teruah means to shout. In 1 Thessalonians, Paul tells us that the Lord will descend with a shout during the rapture:

For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and thus shall always be with the Lord. 1 Thess 4:16-17.

The gates of heaven are opened on the Feat of Trumpets so that the righteous nation may enter (Isaiah 26:2, Psalm 118:19-20). The Feast of Trumpets also marks the beginning of 10 days of intense spiritual preparation for the Day of Atonement. All of those who have placed their faith in the WORD of God are deemed righteous on this day and will not be judged by God on the Day of Atonement.

The Feast of Trumpets is considered to be the day to rest in the finished work of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in our lives. It is unique because there is no explicit reason given in the Torah for its observance, other than to “rest” and to sacrifice. It is the day when all of our earthly struggles are over. The Feast of Trumpets is also the one Jewish feast day that warns of God’s prophetic judgment.

Blow the shofar in Zion, and sound an alarm in My Holy Mountain. Joel 2:1.

The Feast of Trumpets is known as the birthday of the world since the world was created on this day (Talmud, Rosh Hashanah 11a). The first words of the Book of Genesis (Bereishit), “in the beginning,” when changed around read, Aleph b’ Tishrei, or “on the first of Tishrei”. Therefore, the Feast of Trumpets is known as the birthday of the world. Jewish tradition holds that Adam and Eve were created on Tishrei 1.

The Feast of Trumpets marks the Jewish New Year and occurs at the beginning of the Hebrew month of Tishri (September-October). There are 4 new years in the Jewish calendar. Tishrei 1 is the new year of years. Because the Feast of Trumpets takes place at the time of the new moon rather than a full moon, it is very difficult to know in advance what the actual day will be. With anything less than an absolutely clear sky it is impossible to tell when the waxing moon is at its smallest and it takes at least 2 visual sightings to confirm it. The new moon was sanctified when two witnesses saw the first sliver of the new moon and attested to it before the Sanhedrin in the Temple. This sanctification could happen during either of two days, depending on when the witnesses came to the Temple. Therefore, the Feat of Trumpets is observed for 2 days, Tishrei 1 and 2, due to uncertainty about celebrating it on the correct day. The two days are regarded as yoma arikhta, one long day. The Feat of Trumpets is the only Jewish feast where the moon is hidden. The moon is an allusion and represents the Bride of Christ. It is the only feast where the blowing of trumpets is a central theme.

For this reason the Feat of Trumpets came to be known as the feast where no one knows the day or the hour. If you were to mention “turkey day” to any good American, he would know that you were talking about Thanksgiving. If you were to mention “the day of which no man knows the day or hour” to any good Jew, he would know that you were talking about the Feast of Trumpets. Some people look for the Rapture to occur on the Feast of Trumpets because Jesus told us 4 times that “no man knows the day or the hours” of His return, during His Olivet Discourse. These 4 Biblical locations are:

  • Matthew 24:36
  • Matthew 24:42-44
  • Matthew 24:50
  • Matthew 25:13-15

The three main Jewish themes of the Feast of Trumpets are:

  • The resurrection of the righteous.
  • The Kingship of the Lord.
  • The marriage of the King.

The Feast of Trumpets is referred to by many names. These include:

  • Yom Teruah.
  • The Feast Where Nobody Knows the Day or the Hour.
  • The Day of the Great Shout.
  • The Day of Awe.
  • The Day of the Blowing of Trumpets, or The Day of Trumpets.
  • The Hidden Day, The Day of Concealment, or The Day of Hiding (as in hiding the Bride from the Tribulation).
  • The Time of Jacob’s Trouble.
  • The Day of the Awakening Blast.
  • The Day of Judgment.
  • The Day of the Opening of Books.
  • The Day of Remembrance.
  • The Jewish New Year.
  • The Day of the New Moon.
  • The Day of the Opening of Gates (the Gates of Heaven).
  • Ha Kiddushin/Nesuin (The Wedding of the Messiah).
  • Ha Melech (Coronation, or Crowning, of the Messiah).
  • The Birthday of the Messiah.

What About the Dragon in Revelation 12?

What is the fiery red dragon that has 7 heads, 10 horns, and 7 diadems (crowns)? At the moment nothing in the heavens seems to fit. Facing Virgo is the constellation Ophiuchus, the serpent bearer. However, the snake he holds (Serpens) only has one head. Likewise, the constellation Hydra, the Leviathan sea monster, only has one head as well. Something that is red, with 7 heads, 10 horns, and 7 crowns has to stand before Virgo and seemingly grab a third of the stars and throw them to the earth. This fearsome creature is then going to chase the child all the way to heaven.

His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman, who was ready to give birth, to devour her child as soon as it was born. She bore a male child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her child was caught up to God and His throne. Rev 12:4-5.

The Bible tells us that during the crucifixion the sun was blocked for 3 hours. Due to the size of the moon and its distance from the earth, a solar eclipse can only last a maximum of 7 minutes and 22 seconds. This suggests that an incredibly large object passed between the earth and the sun while Jesus was on the cross. What was this large object and could it, or something like it, play a similar role in the Great Sign of the Woman?

One possible explanation is Nibiru, also know by many other names including Planet X. I hesitate to talk about the space object called Nibiru because there are so few facts available and there is so much speculation and conjecture. Nevertheless, there are passages in the Bible that talk about large objects from space interacting with mankind in the Last Days, so our consideration of them is warranted. The Great Red Dragon could be Nibiru. I find it interesting to note that Nibiru reportedly does not reflect light and can only be seen in the infra-red, hence the “red” dragon. Other related conjecture regarding Nibiru stipulates that it is a red dwarf star with 7 planets (or planetoids) orbiting around it and that it follows an elliptical orbit of approximately 3,600 year duration as it passes through our solar system. At least 4 ancient historians, as well as the Bible, tell us that there were major earthquakes on the day that Christ was crucified. Major worldwide earthquakes would be consistent with the gravitational effects of a huge object passing relatively close to the earth. Could the 7 objects orbiting Nibiru be the 7 crowns? Could debris from Nibiru entering the earth’s atmosphere as meteors be the stars that are cast to the earth?

Or perhaps the Great Red Dragon is a yet unknown object. Revelation 12 certainly seems to suggest that something will be there, so I, personally, expect to see something. Only time will tell if my interpretation of this chapter is correct. It is only fair to note as well that I have been wrong with my End Time speculation in the past.

We are in the End Times, also known as the Last Days, spoken of in the Bible. They began on May 14, 1948, when the prophecy of Israel being reborn as a nation in a single day was fulfilled. Jesus told His inner circle that all would be fulfilled within a generation from that day. Debate rages on regarding the definition of what time period constitutes a generation, but by any definition we are very, very close. Something really big is about to happen. The end of the Age of Grace is at hand and the Great Tribulation is about to start. We have been warned to watch and be ready. God has written His warning of judgment in both His book and in the stars. He has also given us a 24/7 hotline to the throne room of the universe where He is anxious to hear from us. Despite all of this, very few pastors will preach about the End Times because they have not studied them, or because they do not want to preach about a controversial topic. Jesus is about to return and the average pastor could not care less. Darkness continues to approach. The lengthening shadows of the End Times can no longer be ignored.

Carl Worline

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