Readers - Finally. The Lord has helped and I think I've gotten another step beyond Luke 19:37, tracking the Descent. The background on this, which has been posted before, is: Jared, means Descend. The Resurrection and the Catching Away cannot happen until the "Lord Himself" descends from heaven with the shout of the archangel ...." 1 Thess 4:16. Jared as an Old Testament Patriarch embodies this concept. First mention of Jared is Genesis 5:15. total gematria value of this verse = 2600 Crossing number systems shows that Strong's greek word 2600 (katabasis, Descent) is found in one verse, Luke 19:37: "And when he was come nigh, even now at the DESCENT of the mount of Olives, the whole multitude of the disciples began to rejoice and praise God with a loud voice for all the mighty works that they had seen; ..." This is as far as I could get. I could not go a step further in trying to proceed to the next Descent "step", as it were. I came up empty. Here's how to proceed: Total running total of first five words of Luke 19:37 = 2368 This is critical as this is the gematria of Jesus (888) + Christ (1480). so, we "descended" from word one to word five and the running total = 2368. word five = "at" (pros) Strong's greek word 4314. you must now cross number systems again. All words or verses that have a total gematria value of 4314 are found here: http://www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_Database.php?SearchBy_Gematria=4314 first verse = Genesis 29:2 "And he (Jacob) looked, and behold a well in the field, and, lo, there were three flocks of sheep lying by it; for out of that well they watered the flocks: and a great stone was upon the well's mouth." I knew this verse as I had had looked at it in the last few days - and the reason I looked at it was that I was on the hunt for 416 words. Jared's greek gematria = 416. http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/jan2013/clay130-2.htm go here for a list of 416 in-text valued Bible words: http://www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_Database.php?SearchBy_Gematria=416 Sixth word listed appears in Genesis 29:2, which is Strong's 8248h = Shaqah, to water, in-text gematria = 416 ! what locks it down again as correct? total verse value of Genesis 29:2 = 4314 >From above, this is the Strong's number for word five in Luke 19:37, which completes the running total of 2368, of which the topic is the Descent. Jesus returns (Descends) to the Mount of Olives at the End. see Acts 1:10 So, we crossed from a total verse gematria in Genesis (2600), to a matching Strong's numbered word (2600g) in Luke 19:37, and we then used the Strong's number for that running-gematria-target-word (4314g) and found a match as a total verse gematria in Genesis 29:2, confirmed because the 416 (Jared = 416) word showed up in the verse. amen. Theoretical conclusions: Genesis 29:2 might be interpreted as a prophetic passage, painting a picture of what is occurring prior to the 1 Thessalonians 4:16 Descent event: (Jacob) Israel is by a well with a great stone on it, with three flocks in the fields. he is about to meet his bride, Rachel. The well with the stone on it might be interpreted as the Resurrection of the dead when the stone is removed. The watering of the three flocks being interpreted as the gathering together of the saints with Rachel, the Bride. that's a loose, but plausible interpretation....imho. ; > Jesus is Lord.