I'm reading, The “Lost” Ten Tribes of Israel…Found!Steven M. Collinsavailable at: http://stevenmcollins.com/homepage.php for $12.99 in pdf format.
While I don't intend to do a book review at this point, I will say that it is a worthwhile read and well worth the modest $12.99. It's 600 plus pages long and represents a ferocious volume of research.
We are currently mutually and equally confused as to whether we're moving directly into the Gog/Magog war or a predecessor Psalm 83 war as postulated by Bill Salus in his excellent ISRALESTINE.
Salus asserts that the Psalm 83 war has not yet occurred. Indeed, his entire hypothesis stands or falls upon this assertion. Collins asserts the opposite -- that the Psalm 83 war has occurred. The following quotation summarizes his position (highlights are mine, page# reference unavailable).
" David’s thoughts on this war are recorded in Psalm 83. David’spsalms were frequently inspired by the events of his life, and thecontext of this chapter directly parallels the events of IChronicles 19. Psalms 83:34 refers to a “crafty counsel” ofmany nations which were assembled to destroy the Israelitenation. Psalm 83:8 shows that these nations had conspired to“help the children of Lot.” Ammon was one of Lot’s children(Genesis 19:3638), and I Chronicles 19 states that an allianceof many nations was fighting Israel under the guise of coming toassist the Ammonites (Lot’s children). This strongly indicates thatPsalm 83 and I Chronicles 19 are describing the same event. Tofurther cement these two biblical accounts together, Psalm 83:8specifically states that Assyria (“Assur” was the forefather of theAssyrians) was a member of the alliance attacking Israel. Thisparallels the reference to “Mesopotamians” in I Chronicles 19, asAssyria was the dominant Mesopotamian nation of that time.A number of the nations referred to in Psalm 83 were, likeAmmon, subject people of Israel who were likely eager to throwoff Israel’s domination. The Philistines, Edom, Moab, and Amalekwere all subject to King David of Israel (I Chronicles 18:11), andjoined Ammon’s revolt against King David. Psalm 83:7 also listsGebal and “the inhabitants of Tyre” (both Phoenician cities) asbeing part of the enemy alliance. This indicates the conspiracyagainst Israel included some Phoenicians, who likely thoughtthey were “siding with a winner” by opposing Israel and backingAssyria. King Hiram of Tyre, David’s ally, apparently experienceda rebellion of Assyrian sympathizers among his own people.However, the wording of verse 7 (it states that some “inhabitantsof Tyre,” not the leadership or whole city of Tyre,were part of the enemy alliances) indicates that Hiram, the kingof Tyre, and part of his people remained loyal to David. Sidon,another major Phoenician city, apparently stayed loyal to David,as they are not included in the list of Israel’s enemies in Psalm83. Since King Hiram remained a close friend of King David andIsrael after this battle, it is apparent that the leadership of Tyreremained loyal to King David. While the account in I Chroniclesutilizes the general name of “Mesopotamians” to describe David’sfoes, David’s own account in Psalm 83 is more specific in namingthe Assyrians as his military opponents.While the King JamesVersion of the Bible uses the term “Assur,” in Psalm 83:8, manyother versions of the Bible (the Revised Standard Version, TheNew Jerusalem Bible, The New Scofield Study Bible) plainlytranslate this word as “Assyria.” The Revised Standard Version isespecially clear is stating: “Assyria also joined them; they arethe strong arm of the children of Lot.”Given the fact that“Assyria” was the leader of the Mesopotamian nations, and thatthe Ammonites were the “children of Lot,” there can be littledoubt that I Chronicles 19 and Psalm 83 refer to the same war.In the second stage of the battle recorded in I Chronicles 19:1619, the Israelites and the Syrians mobilized their entire nationalmilitary resources and clashed anew. This time there was nomore pretense that the Syrians were Ammonite mercenaries.Also, the Assyrians were apparently no longer engaged, but hadretreated after being soundly defeated by the Israelite army. Theaccount states that David “gathered all Israel” and Syria “drewforth the Syrians that were beyond the river” (meaningreinforcements from east of the Euphrates River). The secondbattle of this war involved King David and his fully mobilizedarmy marching eastward from the Jordan River to fight everyonethe Syrians could muster. After suffering 47,000 dead, includingtheir commander, the Syrians yielded to King David and “becamehis servants,” meaning they became vassal nations of Israel whopaid tribute to King David."
Both Collins and Salus could be right IF PSALM 83 IS A DOUBLE EDGED PROPHECY.
First, if the Psalm 83 war is about to repeat, my personal observation is that Daniel's 70th. week would occur sometime around 2060 -- in line with Isaac Newton's schedule. This allows time for Salus' ISRALESTINE scenario to play out.
ISRALESTINE cannot play out unless the USA is taken out as a player. In other words, an imminent rapture is still likely.
If Collins is right (and Psalm 83 is not double edged), then we are moving directly into the Gog/Magog war. Again, the rapture is imminent. The USA has to be removed as a player. And the rapture would surely accomplish this. Pick a number, any number, in the millions, even the very low millions. Instantly remove that number from our population. The USA would be devastated. The military would be eviscerated. The economy would instantly crash. Essential services would cease to be. And so forth and so on. The USA would recover, but it would take time, and Gog/Magog is a very fast war.
Having been hopeful but wrong for nigh unto twenty years now, I'm beyond betting the ranch on any particular date. I continue to expect the call of our saviour imminently.