Dear Kari and Patti C.,
Thank you very much for your comments to my post. I just wanted to say a few things in reply.
First, I don’t think that the Rapture and the Tribulation have to occur within days of each other. I am one of those people who believe that the Rapture will result in major destructive earth changes – including a change to the rotation of the earth. This change will explain the switch from our current 365 day years to the 360 day years that we see in the book of Revelation. I believe that during the subsequent time of reorganization, the Antichrist will come into power, the governmental system will become worldwide, and concessions will be made to various nations – including Israel. I believe that one of those concessions will be the rebuilding of the Temple. This is because I believe that the covenant that will be confirmed at the beginning of Daniel’s Seventieth Week is the “holy covenant.” (See Daniel 11:28-30.) It is what we would consider to be the Old Covenant – replete with a temple, priesthood, and animal sacrifices.
Granted, all this is just my personal speculation, but I wanted you to see where I am coming from. I personally do not think that a rebuilt Third Temple has to exist prior to the Rapture.
To Kari: I am aware that some of the Scripture I quoted from deals with Antiochus Epiphanes. I quoted from these passages because I believe that he is a type or model of the Antichrist. In fact, I think that he is the best model of the Antichrist that we have been given. So, the things that Antiochus did and how he did them gives us insight as to how the Antichrist will do things. The fact that Jesus points to the Abomination that Causes Desolation supports the idea that what was done before will be done again.
“What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.” Ecclesiastes 1:9.
With regard to the preterist position, I must confess that I am biased against it. I am not sure if you believe that all prophecy has been fulfilled or if you are a partial preterist. I guess that my main problem with preterism is that it pushes aside the nation of Israel.
When Jesus gave his warning for people to flee Judea when they saw the Abomination, He was speaking to a Jewish audience. Hence the line: “Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.” See Matthew 24:20. We know that the Jews did not flee Jerusalem in 70 A.D., and thus became subject to the Roman siege. And yet there is the prophecy in Revelation 12 where Israel does flee. And those who heed the warning to flee (to the place prepared for them) will be protected for 3 ½ years. So, it would appear that the ultimate fulfillment of Christ’s warning has yet to be fulfilled.
God has made certain promises to the earthly nation of Israel – including the provision of an area of land that they have yet to receive. (The current geographical area of Israel is much, much smaller than what is promised.) I believe that these promises must be fulfilled to an earthly Israel. Paul tells us in Romans 11:25-27 that “all Israel will be saved.” Clearly, God is not through with the Jews.
I do not believe that the destruction of the Second Temple is the fulfillment of the Abomination that Causes Desolation. Nero cannot be the Antichrist, because he committed suicide and was not cast alive into the Lake of Fire. See Revelation 19:20. There is no record of a False Prophet setting up an image of the Antichrist in the Second Temple. There is no record of that image talking and demanding worship. There is no record of people being killed for failing to worship the image. Nor is there a record of the mark of the beast instituted at that time.
So, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.
To Patti: The term “Holy Place” is an actual location in the Temple (and the Tabernacle). If I told you that I set up a statue in your kitchen or living room, you would know exactly what room I was talking about. It is the same with the term “Holy Place.”
“Hang the curtain from the clasps and place the ark of the Testimony behind the curtain. The curtain will separate the Holy Place from the Most Holy Place.” Exodus 26:33.
This is why I believe that Jesus was referring to the Jewish Temple. Since the first Abomination that Causes Desolation was set up in a Jewish temple, I believe that the future Abomination will be set up in a Jewish temple as well.
God bless you both in your studies.
– Lisa Taylor